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Re: capacitor
A 1 farad capacitor (or any value for that matter) is a waste of time and money. If you have a problem with dimming lights on loud bass hits upgrade to a high output alternator. You can use the cap as a door stop.
Re: capacitor
I disagree. A high-output alternator puts more load on the engine, so if you care about your car's acceleration ability, a cap would be a better option.
You'd probably only lose 1-2hp, but it's still a loss. It all depends on your priorities.
Caps can wear out over time. They make capacitor testing devices, but I've never encountered one that could handle a cap anywhere near that big.
You'd probably only lose 1-2hp, but it's still a loss. It all depends on your priorities.
Caps can wear out over time. They make capacitor testing devices, but I've never encountered one that could handle a cap anywhere near that big.
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I'd like to see the documentation proving that an HO alt is more of a load on the engine than the stock alt is.
A cap is ONLY good if your stereo draws only slightly more current than your car's charging system can deliver. If the stereo draws more than the charging system can deliver the cap becomes more of a load on the charging system which negates any benefits it might have. In fact it will do more harm than good since the batery will be discharging (when it should be charging) trying to make up the difference that the cap cannot meet. This will eventually shorten the lifespan of the battery. Like I've always said a cap is a band-aid while an HO alt is the cure.
A cap is ONLY good if your stereo draws only slightly more current than your car's charging system can deliver. If the stereo draws more than the charging system can deliver the cap becomes more of a load on the charging system which negates any benefits it might have. In fact it will do more harm than good since the batery will be discharging (when it should be charging) trying to make up the difference that the cap cannot meet. This will eventually shorten the lifespan of the battery. Like I've always said a cap is a band-aid while an HO alt is the cure.
Re: capacitor
Originally Posted by LS1 RULZ
I'd like to see the documentation proving that an HO alt is more of a load on the engine than the stock alt is.
A cap is ONLY good if your stereo draws only slightly more current than your car's charging system can deliver. If the stereo draws more than the charging system can deliver the cap becomes more of a load on the charging system which negates any benefits it might have. In fact it will do more harm than good since the batery will be discharging (when it should be charging) trying to make up the difference that the cap cannot meet. This will eventually shorten the lifespan of the battery. Like I've always said a cap is a band-aid while an HO alt is the cure.
If the cap can't make up the difference, it isn't big enough. I've seen 45-farad caps... there might even be bigger ones on the market.
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The energy comes from the extra windings inside the alt.
Larger caps are simply market hype for those that think if some is good then more must be better. Just like 3,4 and 5-way speakers.
Larger caps are simply market hype for those that think if some is good then more must be better. Just like 3,4 and 5-way speakers.
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Originally Posted by LS1 RULZ
The energy comes from the extra windings inside the alt.
Originally Posted by LS1 RULZ
Larger caps are simply market hype for those that think if some is good then more must be better. Just like 3,4 and 5-way speakers.
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Well I still don't think an HO alt is enough to make enough difference no matter how you look at it. An besides, and I think you'll agree with me here, anyone that is worried about a 1 or 2 HP loss isn't going to have a fully blown after-market stereo system in their car anyway.
I will disagree with you on the multi-way speaker system though till I'm blue in the face. A 6-1/2" mid-woofer and a 1" tweeter are more than enough to cover the audible spectrum of sound. There is no need for what amounts to a mid-woofer and multiple tweeters no matter what anyone says. It is and always will be marketing BS. And as long as there are people in the world that think more is better then the industry will continue to make them. Same goes for men's razors. I wonder how long it will take for Schick or Gillette to come out with a 10 blade razor.
I will disagree with you on the multi-way speaker system though till I'm blue in the face. A 6-1/2" mid-woofer and a 1" tweeter are more than enough to cover the audible spectrum of sound. There is no need for what amounts to a mid-woofer and multiple tweeters no matter what anyone says. It is and always will be marketing BS. And as long as there are people in the world that think more is better then the industry will continue to make them. Same goes for men's razors. I wonder how long it will take for Schick or Gillette to come out with a 10 blade razor.
Re: capacitor
Originally Posted by LS1 RULZ
Well I still don't think an HO alt is enough to make enough difference no matter how you look at it. An besides, and I think you'll agree with me here, anyone that is worried about a 1 or 2 HP loss isn't going to have a fully blown after-market stereo system in their car anyway.

Originally Posted by LS1 RULZ
I will disagree with you on the multi-way speaker system though
Re: capacitor
Originally Posted by 1FstFormulaV8
Caps are a waste. 1 Farad is pointless. A cap acts nothing more than a buffer.
I'll agree that most systems don't need a cap, but they do have a purpose and some systems will benefit from one; they certainly won't hurt anything (except possibly your wallet). "Waste" and "pointless" are too strong to use unqualified.
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They will definitely "hurt" if the current demands placed on the charging system are more than what the cap can make up for. And 99 times out of 100 that will be the case. I will stick to my guns on this issue till the day I die. Caps are a waste of money. And larger ones with their higher ESR are not going to be the miracle cure-all that many people seem to think they are. If you believe in snake oil remedies then by all means spend as much money on one as you wish. I have better things to spend my money on.
Re: capacitor
A cap is a band aid. Where as a HO alt is the solution. I am with LS1 with it notting adding more strain on the engine. They dont add more resistance when they add power just more loops of copper.
Re: capacitor
Those additional loops of copper create a larger, stronger magnetic field, which the engine must overcome in order to spin the alternator.
It's small, but there is a difference in the power draw placed on the engine by a high-output alternator.
It's small, but there is a difference in the power draw placed on the engine by a high-output alternator.
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