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Yet another reason to love Ford's SVT

Old Jun 30, 2004 | 02:41 PM
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Exclamation Yet another reason to love Ford's SVT

The story of how Mitsubishi "mysteriously" finds out who has been racing their cars has been beaten pretty well.

It's also no secret that although other makers also void your warranty for racing, they actually seem to wait till the part fails till they look into whether you were racing or not.

But buried in this latest story on the subject is this little blurb:

One rare exception is track day events organized, sponsored and sanctioned by the national Ford SVT Owners’ Association and local Ford/SVT dealers. Owners bring their cars, and the association and participating dealers agree to cover any mechanical failures brought on by normal track use.

“Owners can participate in the instructional days without automatically voiding their warranties,” says Ford Performance Vehicles spokesman Alan Hall. “Obviously if they abuse it [the car] on the track, or there’s a part that breaks due to aggressive driving, that will not be covered under warranty. But your warranty will not be voided across the board by just participating in that event. We don’t automatically void a warranty unless above-normal abuse is shown on a vehicle.”
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content...._code=02612566

Add to that, front of the line service at the Ford SVT dealer, direct contact lines to SVT's top guys, hand built engines, and a professional Hot Rodder running the thing, and that's a winning enthusiasts combination.

Regardless as to whether you hate Fords or not, you can't argue that their SVT organization is 1st rate!
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 03:40 PM
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Dodge does the same thing at their sponsored events.
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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Untill they close up shop, I could care less about SVT.
Does John Colleti race at all? How about Speed TV's GT racing series? Wait...I know who does... John Hienricy, GM's director of performance. He came in 3rd behind the 2 audi's in his seperate, specialy tuned CTS-V.
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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I really hope that GMPD becomes more like SVT. SVT runs a pretty tight ship.
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by Big Als Z
Untill they close up shop, I could care less about SVT.
So SVT going away would make you happy? Interesting concept. See "GM apologist" comment in previous threads. Personally, I'd like to see GM and Chrysler with something similar to SVT (SLP sort of organization?). Competition is good, and improves the breed of all.

Originally posted by Big Als Z
Does John Colleti race at all? How about Speed TV's GT racing series? Wait...I know who does... John Hienricy, GM's director of performance. He came in 3rd behind the 2 audi's in his seperate, specialy tuned CTS-V.
Couldn't tell ya. However, I can tell you that Ford ponies up $6000-$10000 to win the Modular class at all 13 FFW events, and a brand new Mustang GT for the season points winner.

What does GM do for their grass-roots drag racers?

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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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GM does need an "in house" tuner deal like ford has with SVT and chrysler... I mean, Holden has had HSV for how long? I'm not sure but it's been a while, if we want a 440horse supercharged ls1 from the factory with a warranty the only option we have is to move to Australia.

GM seems to just dump the cars off at street legal performance and say "make a firehawk..."
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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SVT Maybe this will inspire GM to do something similar.
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 07:19 PM
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I'm not all that impressed about the warranty protection. It's still quite simple for SVT/Ford to void a warranty due to mods. Really, what's the likelihood of something big failing on a stock vehicle during track use?

Actually a far bigger issue to me when I go to the track, is having no insurance coverage.
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 07:24 PM
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"Obviously if they abuse it [the car] on the track, or there’s a part that breaks due to aggressive driving, that will not be covered under warranty."

so if you do aggressively driving on a track, say staying at 4000+ rpms the whole time, and redlining it on every shift coming down the straight... and you cook your power steering pump and rack seals, spin a bearing from oil starvation at high rpm's and g's around turns, and burn out a hub from the extreme heat.. its that abuse and not covered?


EDIT: oh i get it.. some plcaes would just automatically void your warantee if they find out you were at an event. Ford will take a look into it, then decide if they will not cover the repairs..

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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 11:37 PM
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I'm still not completely clear how they can make determinations of abuse after a track session.

Sounds like a flashy pander-to-the-enthusiast scheme to me.
Old Jun 30, 2004 | 11:42 PM
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Untill they close up shop, I could care less about SVT.
And I'm sure they could care less about you. Unable to appreciate anything with a blue oval on it, you're apparently under the misguided impression that the unlikely failure of SVT would somehow benefit GM fans. Stupid theory.
You should be hoping SVT sells as many cars are they can instead of whining because you don't like Ford. Why do you think PVO exists? What would spur GM to create such a division if SVT were to fail? Put your Ford-hating mantra aside and think about it.
Does John Colleti race at all? How about Speed TV's GT racing series?
Who gives a sh*t if he races or not. He's empowered SVT to build kick @ss cars and trucks. Does Lutz race? Wait...I don't race in the Speed TV GT racing series...I guess I'd better sell the Cobra, GT and Buick. I'm not worthy of owning them because I'm not a real enthusiast because I don't race in the Speed TV GT racing series. How about you? Do you race at all?
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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And I'm sure they could care less about you. Unable to appreciate anything with a blue oval on it, you're apparently under the misguided impression that the unlikely failure of SVT would somehow benefit GM fans. Stupid theory.
You should be hoping SVT sells as many cars are they can instead of whining because you don't like Ford. Why do you think PVO exists? What would spur GM to create such a division if SVT were to fail? Put your Ford-hating mantra aside and think about it.
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No, if SVT failed, then GM will still have its performance division, as well as POV would still exisit. Ill keep my Ford-Hating mantra front and center.

Who gives a sh*t if he races or not. He's empowered SVT to build kick @ss cars and trucks. Does Lutz race? Wait...I don't race in the Speed TV GT racing series...I guess I'd better sell the Cobra, GT and Buick. I'm not worthy of owning them because I'm not a real enthusiast because I don't race in the Speed TV GT racing series. How about you? Do you race at all?
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Not saying his HAS to, as you have taken my post way out of context, as usual. Lutz doesnt have to race as he is not in charge of GMPD, Hienricy is. It shows that he is a bit more dedicated to his product then Colleti is, at least IMO.
Go ahead and sell your cars, I could give a crap. Not saying you HAVE to race, but IMO, if you ran a "performance" group, it shows that you support your own team. Yeah, Colleti comes up with good cars. Any of them in racing? Does SVT ever go into any type of performace racing outside of Ford paying pennys to drag racing? Does SVT actualy enter any of there cars? Both GMPD and PVO do. Why not SVT if they are so good and awesome?
Old Jul 1, 2004 | 12:32 AM
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Ill keep my Ford-Hating mantra front and center.
Big surprise there. I could put a Chevy emblem on a turd and you'd worship it as the best thing on the road.
It shows that he is a bit more dedicated to his product then Colleti is, at least IMO.
Yup...in your opinion. The truth is, you have no idea what level of dedication either man has to their product other than assumption and the fact that Heinricy races competitively and (presumably) Colleti does not. I doubt Ford or Chevy required applicants to be currently involved in competitive racing to qualify.
Go ahead and sell your cars, I could give a crap.
Nah...I think I'll keep them. Then I can make informed statements about fast cars instead of guessing.
Yeah, Colleti comes up with good cars. Any of them in racing? Does SVT ever go into any type of performace racing outside of Ford paying pennys to drag racing? Does SVT actualy enter any of there cars? Both GMPD and PVO do. Why not SVT if they are so good and awesome?
ROTFLMAO! Who cares?! SVT's products speak for themselves. GM sponsoring a C5R effort means little to me. Dodge fielding a Viper is nice, but it has little bearing on what I'm buying in the showroom.

I laugh at such blindly-biased brand-loyalty. Your hatred of Ford borderlines on fanatical, criticizing even non-biased folks such as guionM for making negative comments about GM and praising Ford for anything.
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 12:52 AM
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Yup...in your opinion. The truth is, you have no idea what level of dedication either man has to their product other than assumption and the fact that Heinricy races competitively and (presumably) Colleti does not. I doubt Ford or Chevy required applicants to be currently involved in competitive racing to qualify.
Ford nor GM require it...thats what makes me think that Heinricy is a bit more dedicated then Colleti is to the performance of there product.

ROTFLMAO! Who cares?! SVT's products speak for themselves. GM sponsoring a C5R effort means little to me. Dodge fielding a Viper is nice, but it has little bearing on what I'm buying in the showroom.

I laugh at such blindly-biased brand-loyalty. Your hatred of Ford borderlines on fanatical, criticizing even non-biased folks such as guionM for making negative comments about GM and praising Ford for anything.
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GM's sponsoring doesnt mean jack to you, but it does to someone or GM wouldnt be in it for too long. And GM wining year after year also shows that GM isnt just there for show. Im not biased...I just dont like Ford.
Old Jul 1, 2004 | 07:42 AM
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Jesus christ. You know you're not going to change his opinion and you guys still bicker. If you go into your options you can igore users, if his ford hate discourages you guys so much then just freakin block him, I've just done that for all three of you. Stop ruining good threads.

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