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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 09:55 AM
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BMW Diesel Coupe...This would make a nice Camaro powertrain

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...9002/1530/FREE

0-62mph = 6.3 sec.
MPG = 34

GM has the 2.9L V6 that has very similar specs.

Alongside the hybrid hype, unrelenting progress in diesel engine technology, especially in the reduction of nitrogen oxide emissions, means we're seeing more diesels. Still far from mainstream in the United States, diesels are ubiquitous in Europe; they can claim market share of more than 50 percent in many countries. Now they are starting to make inroads into the performance-car ranks. The latest and perhaps best example of the latter trend is BMW's rapid new 635d. Introduced as part of a lightly refreshed 6 Series lineup, it is one of several BMWs using Munich's twin-turbo, 3.0-liter inline six-cylinder.

When you slot the electronic key into the dashboard, the distant diesel chatter tells you this is no ordinary 6 Series. One stab of the throttle wipes away any lingering doubts about the suitability of a diesel in a sporting BMW. The 635d outguns the 630i easily and has enough torque to make even the 650i feel slow on occasion. Average fuel economy of 34 mpg lets you enjoy the performance without emptying your wallet, while going more than 600 miles on a tankful.

The secret is a complex induction system. A small turbo-charger with minimal boost operates alone from idle to about 1500 rpm, when it is joined by a larger turbocharger running greater boost. The two operate together until 2500 rpm, when the smaller turbo disengages, leaving the bigger unit to carry on up to the 5000-rpm cutout.

The 286 hp at 4400 rpm is generous, but a solid 427 lb-ft of torque at just 1750 rpm really steals the show. That's 66 lb-ft more than the 4.8-liter-V8-powered 650i produces at 3400 rpm. BMW claims 369 lb-ft is available at just 1250 rpm, providing thrust from the first tap on the throttle. BMW's six-speed manual gearbox can't cope with all this twist action, so the latest six-speed automatic is standard. It has a fiddly electronic joystick-style shift lever, remote shift paddles that move with the steering wheel and a different set of ratios from those used in gasoline-fueled 6 Series.

BMW claims 0 to 62 mph (100 km/h) comes in 6.3 seconds, 0.4 second earlier than in the 630i. However, the standing-start performance pales next to the 635d's stomping in-gear ability. The midrange acceleration will convince even the most ardent enthusiast that diesel performance has come of age. No test figures are available, but subjectively, the 635d feels faster than the six-speed manual 650i in the 50-to-75-mph range in fourth gear. There's more to the diesel's character than just urge. The power delivery is linear from idle to redline.

We wouldn't go so far as to say it's as spirited and enjoyable as its gasoline-engined siblings, but there's not much separating them. While it lacks the silky refinement of the 630i and the 650i, the 635d's characteristic diesel growl suits the 6 Series' bullish character.

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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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I'm cautious about pushing diesels into the US passenger car market. Here in California they are considering making biannual emissions testing required for all diesel vehicles under 14,000 GVW in 2009. With that I would expect them to also require stricter regulations. As you know, when it comes to emissions, the rest of the country keeps an eye on us, and usually follows our lead a few years later.

I'd guess that by 2012, many of the older diesel passenger vehicles will no longer pass the sniffer test and be required to be updated, or removed from service... at least that's what I see for us here in California.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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At least this has me optimistic about the 35mpg by 2020 fuel economy standards. I think in the end, us performance guys will be able to have our cake and eat it too.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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Diesel is going to make some inroads in the U.S., I think, especially if automakers combine them with hybrid powertrains. There was a French company (I forget if it was Citroen, Renault, or Peugeot) that just revealed an upcoming diesel-hybrid car that gets something like 80 MPG.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by skorpion317
Diesel is going to make some inroads in the U.S., I think, especially if automakers combine them with hybrid powertrains. There was a French company (I forget if it was Citroen, Renault, or Peugeot) that just revealed an upcoming diesel-hybrid car that gets something like 80 MPG.
Actually I think that's where the future is, at least the "near" future. A diesel-hybrid electric makes sense in certain situations. My only concern is that where emission regulations are headed may be a restriction on diesel performance.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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Well having seen a newer dodge desiel the other day belch a cloud of black smoke whenever the driver laid into the gas, I might be inclined to agree. The truck was new enough it shouldn't have been doing that every time the driver accelerated, which was frequent (about every 15 to 30 seconds).
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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"remote shift paddles that move with the steering wheel "

Just figuring out it's smarter to keep the paddles moving with the steering wheel, silly germans.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bossco
Well having seen a newer dodge desiel the other day belch a cloud of black smoke whenever the driver laid into the gas, I might be inclined to agree. The truck was new enough it shouldn't have been doing that every time the driver accelerated, which was frequent (about every 15 to 30 seconds).
Who's to say that it was all stock?
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 02:26 AM
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You can keep your diesel hybrids. I'll stick with the Hayabusa powered Smart Diablo as my hotrod of choice in the enviromentally friendly future.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gseTGwppbg

Versus a Ferrari F430:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV1zQMcSsk0

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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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You can keep your diesel hybrids. I'll stick with the Hayabusa powered Smart Diablo as my hotrod of choice in the enviromentally friendly future.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gseTGwppbg

Versus a Ferrari F430:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV1zQMcSsk0
Too bad they can't sell them here legally.
Old Oct 25, 2007 | 12:07 AM
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Who's to say that it was all stock?
That was my assumption, or it may have been broke??? But the fact remains it was belching black smoke none the less, which is the problem deisiels have had with emmisions.
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