http://media.gm.com/division/2004_pr...ary_manual.pdf

 

I really don't have a problem with it. If it allows GM to save and spread development costs; and can hold up - I think it'd be a winner.

Just think maybe somebody could do a Manual/Automatic swap and utilize the same Transmission case...

 

That looks awesome in theory. Can't wait to see it in execution. Does it have a clutch pedal?

 

Sounds interesting. Whats the deal with the "Park" gear? maybe it is so a remote car starter can be used w/ a manual.

I only wish the R & P were next to 5 & 6

 

I figure it works the same way Park works in an automatic, so that you could park on a hill and not need the E-brake. (Personally, I'd use it on hills anyway).

It might also engage other previously automatic-only features, for instance the feature (if you want to call it that) that prevents you from removing the key unless the car is in Park.

 

Hmmm. I wonder if i can retrofit my 72 Lemans with that? That would be cool.

 

Interesting .

David

 

If I had to guess, I would say the park gear allows you to use a keyless start without a clutch. It also reduces a ton of complexity. For me, it means I can get a manual that my wife can drive, with remote start to boot! I would wait until the 2nd or 3rd year of production on this tech for sure

 

So is this a good thing or a bad thing for the manual trans crowd?

 

So would this operate like a Manual that we're all familiar with or do you think it is more like a manual valvebody Automatic. Of course the Dry Input Clutch suggests... Hell I dunno what it suggests...



It's nice to see them thinking outside the box I guess...

 

The most important question, to me, is if the system uses a torque converter or a clutch, and in the case of a clutch, is it automatic or is there a pedal?

I'm guessing it's a torque converter, and that this is really just an automatic transmission with "autostick", but without the "auto" mode.

I want a clutch, with a pedal.

 

Clutch pedal is my guess.

Park probably puts the engine in neutral but locks the trans so that the wheels can't move.

 

I really don't know. This is new to me too. I would expect this to eliminate the clutch, since there really isn't too much of a gain otherwise. I also hope that this is true clutchless manual. If it's an "autostick" I would be disappointed.

 

Let's also look at the fact that GM has actually released something about this. Based on past experience, that means it is potentially about 5-7 years from seeing production. Can you imagine?

 

As long as it feels like an M6 (I need a clutch pedal) and holds up to large amounts of power I dont care