Have they been discontinued or something? I looked at the Dodge website and there is nothing I saw mentioning it and can't find anything new online thru google about it, everything is from last year. Did they drop this model, it looked promising with the 4:10 gears and loose converter, 0-60 in 5.7 range. The new Ram bodystyle is gorgeous even if trucks aren't selling well right now.

http://www.autofans.us/2008/09/05/fi...-ram-sport-rt/

 

I can't seem to order a new '10 Ram R/T at the moment (just tried...a Sport 4x2 automatically defaulted to an R/T)...interesting...

I for one was pretty psyched about it, too

 

Do they still make the Nightrunner package in the new Rams? My brother has an '06. Pretty nice truck, even if its only cosmetic.

 

I remember seeing the R/T on the assembly line. Really sweet truck.

I think St. Louis was the only plant building regular cab Rams, which the R/T was. We were down so much this year that we didn't turn out too many vehicles.
And now we're (I mean "they're"; force of habit) closed permanently. The last Ram rolled off the assembly line last Thursday and the last Ram rolled out of the plant this past Wednesday.

I can't remember if Warren or Saltillo is getting the regular cab. I can find out. But either way, whichever plant gets it, they'll have to retool for it. So it may be awhile before you see any regular cab Rams rolling out from an assembly plant.

I'll have to find out who's getting the regular cabs and how many R/Ts we (sorry, they) built.

 

This makes perfect sense to me now...my regular cabs are on restriction until September...I have 3 on order...

 

Damn they make a truck I want and of course close down the plant that builds it.

 

Yeah, think about how the 1,200 people that worked there feel.
Especially knowing that our own tax dollars helped put us out of a job.

 

No, our own tax dollars saved some jobs... the jobs lost would have been lost regardless of to tax dollars or not when the company liquidated.

 

I love how the new Rams look. Unforunately, I've only seen a couple around here and they've been out for quite some time.

 

Yeah that new front end slanted forward and the rear exhausts melted into the bumper are seriously good looking styling. The new bump in the back of the bed is pretty sweet as well. Hunting season is coming up and my old Dodge is getting tired. I was hoping to kill two birds with one vehicle, I want a truck and a sports car, while not being a true sportscar the RT is about as close as you can get and still throw a deer int he back.

 

While what you say is true, it's of little comfort to those that have lost their jobs when their products were shipped to Mexico & Canada with little to no outrage or pushback from Washington. One would think that if a company were taking money from the U.S. government (essentially the U.S. tax payers), then the government would require no job losses in the U.S.
In essence, the employees have paid (thru the large taxes they pay) to have themselves outsourced. And the government didn't even care. How do you think that makes the employees feel?

Yes, it could have been worse. But it DEFINATELY could have been much better.

 

I understand your input, but you are asking for the recession not to have happened, production not needing to have been cut down, or you are asking for the gov't loans to only be paid to the employees that would have been cut, therefore just making the debts for these companies bigger.

 

No....

What's he's saying is why was Chrysler allowed to be bailed out while sending EXISTING production to EXISTING facilities in Mexico and Canada, rather than continue to use EXISTING facilities in the US.

I'd have had ZERO issue with Chrysler taking St. Louis North, where HuJass worked building reg cab Rams, and adding production there and closing down Satillo in Mexico, where my reg cab Ram 2500 was built Cost more to build them in St. Louis? Too effing bad IMO...call that the cost Chrysler should bear for government assistance.

I'm with him 110% on this one...

 

I agree, and the feds are attempting to influence decisions that way (perhaps the only "good" influence the feds should undertake).

GM reversed it's decision to import a huge percentage of it's cars from China in the future, and was pressured to make it's upcoming small car here in the US instead of importing it from Korea.

But the fact still stands that US automakers have too much capacity. We have an industry set up to make 18-20 million vehicles per year, but a market that's selling only 9-12 million. Even before the bottom fell out, we were running at 16 million, and still had overcapacity.

The jobs kept was essentially forced by rules made in legally binding agreements between the big 3 and the UAW and the communities these plants (and dealers) were in. US companies were being forced to pay for capacity and workers it didn't need and making vehicles it had to (via rentals and fleet sales) give away or sell at a loss simply to keep capacity up.

This was simply not sustainable.

GM caved in last winter, and Chrysler was months behind it.

Bankruptcy turned out to be the only way out of these legal agreements, and the Feds turned out to be the only ones willing to lend GM or Chrysler money to survive (Cerberus has financial firewalls between it's holdings, while banks and lending institutions stopped lending money to GM some time ago)

It's an ugly truth and a painful irony that tax dollars are being used to throw people out of work. If you're one of the ones being cut, or a community that is seeing a plant close down and many friends suddenly without a way to pay the morgage (especially in this current economy) there is no words or view that's going to make that seem any better.

But those tax dollars did save massively more jobs than it lost. For every, say, 1,000 jobs lost, there were perhaps 10,000 to 15,000 jobs saved directly at car makers, suppliers, and those that sell to suppliers, and even surviving dealerships... not to mention businesses and communities that sell to all those people who work in those areas.

To the person who lost their job, there is no words that anyone can say that could possibly make that person feel better. But taken as a whole, there is no denying that what turned out to be painful for a few would have been an utter calamity for just about everyone else if these moves weren't taken.

 

So were any 09 Ram R/T's ever even produced? I can't find anything on them other than the press releases saying they were gonna be built but never found an owner out there.