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Old 04-28-2005, 08:55 AM
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when do you think GM and Ford will merge??

I mean just thinking, will it ever ever ever happen??

the market, and the competition...
just throwing it out there cus it looks like Toyota is laughing all the way to the bank....literally..

could the big one toyota make it possible? or would one let the other fold??
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Hrrrm....I'd surmise as to oh, never....

I could see it as a faint possibility *IF* the truck/suv market were to collapse, though, I'd imagine the probability of that happening is akin to the probability of ol' Mr. Gates umm, donating his assets into my portfolio.
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Re: when do you think GM and Ford will merge??

Actually this almost happened several decades ago if I remember my history right. I think the government smacked it down though fearing a Monopoly being formed from or that GM didnt have the proper capital at the time to buy out Ford.
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Re: when do you think GM and Ford will merge??

Scary thought, but I too remember hearing something about it awhile back. Let us hope that never, ever happen.
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Never?

When 2 companies have all the same problems merging would compound rather than reduce those problems.
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Re: when do you think GM and Ford will merge??

I'd actually think Toyota taking over GM could be more likely. Seriously.
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Re: when do you think GM and Ford will merge??

Never
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Re: when do you think GM and Ford will merge??

A Mustang-based Camaro with a Ford V8 sounds like a nightmare.
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Re: when do you think GM and Ford will merge??

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Actually this almost happened several decades ago if I remember my history right. I think the government smacked it down though fearing a Monopoly being formed from or that GM didnt have the proper capital at the time to buy out Ford.
That was in 1909. The loan for $9.5 million was turned down by the bankers.
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Re: when do you think GM and Ford will merge??

Originally Posted by Brandon_Lutz
Actually this almost happened several decades ago if I remember my history right. I think the government smacked it down though fearing a Monopoly being formed from or that GM didnt have the proper capital at the time to buy out Ford.
You are right.

GM attempted to buy Ford or vice versa some decades ago (20s or 30s).

I don't think the government was the one to kill it though.
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Re: when do you think GM and Ford will merge??

To give that some perspective, at the time GM was Buick, Oldsmobile, Oakland and Cadillac... If the loan went through would they have ever bought Chevrolet?
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Then people would bitch "Why does GM need both Ford and Chevy brand pickups? Just dump XXX and only sell YYY" Any one notice as more American brands are dropped (olds, plymouth, eagle) or foreign brands intigrated (Saab, Jaguar) other brands pop up and take market share (Kia, Hyundai, Scion, Mini). GM doesn't need to buy more brands, it needs to perfect the ones it has first!!!
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Re: when do you think GM and Ford will merge??

I think that GM could have bought Ford in the late 80s early 90s but just didn't.
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Re: when do you think GM and Ford will merge??

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I think that GM could have bought Ford in the late 80s early 90s but just didn't.
Actually, it was Ford that could have bought GM in the late 80s to early 90s.

GM was teathering on the edge of bankruptcy after Roger Smith's time at GM, and Ford was awash in cash after a decade of running the long paid off , widely used, and highly successful "fox" body and doing a 180 and drastically improving quality & customer satisfaction over the course of the 80s. Having a car that flattened all competition also helped (Ford Taurus was the best selling car in the US by a massive margin till the late 90s redesign).

Ford also had the resources to at least make a play on GM again in the mid-late 90s. Again, Ford was awash in cash, and they instead went on a buying spree that aquired them Land Rover, Aston Martin, Jaguar, Volvo, and a controlling share of Mazda.

Ford could have easily marshalled their resources and bought the lion's share of General Motors and if not own it outright, most definately own enough of it to run General Motors. Not just in the US, but the whole GM kitty.

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Re: when do you think GM and Ford will merge??

NEVER.

I think the two companies would go bankrupt before that ever happened.
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