Is Chevy going to make one with a ls2/lsx? will the Colorado get a v8 at some point?

 

There is a V8 coming for the Colorado...a 5.3 in the next year or two. As far as the SS, last I heard, (which was awhile ago) they were looking at an LS2 for it, but I've since lost track of what's happening with that program.

 

Yeah I figured a 5.3 would be available before an LSx engine.. I don't think an SS version would really be necessary.

 

they need to get rid of that crappy chassis...

225 hp should be so much more powerful...

even next year 242 hp?

that izusu design is destroying that truck...

i'd say we need another vehicle designed by chevy... before i worry about a v8 or ss model

 

The isuzu shortfall is the lack of room for a 4.2L I6 and V-shaped engine in 4x4 trucks, other than that how is "that izusu design is destroying that truck"? It is MUCH better than the S-10 chassis

 

I never thought the colorado was that bad looking overall. Certain things, such as the high swooping fenders, did not go over well, but we have a crew cab I5 that my brother drives around to run parts and such and it is a nice little truck.

 

I feel the same way..the trucks looks alot more modern than the S-10 but its sales are less than great?? dont know why?? maybee thats why ford wont redesign the Ranger...

 

The Toyota Tacoma is eating the Big 3's small truck offerings for lunch. That, my friends, is truly pathetic.

 

Well, after all the hoopla about the power upgrades to the Atlas motors and how it was technically going to make the Atlast 5-cyl more 'power'ful than Toyota's GR V6, I asked a simple question - a question that most GM guys wouldn't hesitate to ask if the tables were turned.

So.. how much is that power output change going to help towing capacity?

All I heard were crickets.

As it stands now, the Taco tows 6500 pounds - the Colorado/Canyon in the most optimum congifuration: 4000.

Even the Honda Ridgeline that gets laughed at so often by people in this very forum, tows 5000 by default.

It is my personal opinion that GM has always made a very competitive full sized truck, but their compact trucks have always been behind the curve, and using an Isuzu design certainly didn't help things much. OK, yes, it helped compared to the S10, but come on... the last ground up redesign for the S10 was for the 1994 model year. Are we really that impressed that the 2005 Colorado improved upon something from 11 years ago?

I personally was disappointed when I found out the Colorado/Canyon wouldn't be on the same chassis as the TB/Envoy and with the same I6 available - if not for the 5.3L. Yes it would have been more expensive but it would have made an impact on the market. And in a day and age when people don't flinch to pay 25 grand for a nicely equipped Tacoma 4-door V6 because they feel it's worth it - GM needs to be focusing more on producing solid impressive machinery and less on cutting material and production costs on the way there.

 

Very true and sad.

Ranger = So old it isn't funny, yet Ranger + Sport Trac = a good amount of sales.

Dakota = only needs a new body that isn't ugly, why no Hemi?

Colorado = Just needs to one up the Tacomas interior and offer what American trucks know best, a V8

 

First off, I believe the Colorado is second in sales (behind the Tacoma).

Secondly, I'm not so sure the Colorado/Canyon needs a V-8.
What they need is the 3.6 L HF V-6. This engine has more torque than the I-5, it's peak torque is at a lower RPM than the I-5, and it has more HP than the I-5. It probably gets better fuel mileage and is probably much smoother. And that's in it's current configuration. Just think what the coming improvements (D.I., etc) will do for this engine!!

That's what the 355s need!!

 

the damn thing seems like its as big as my dually... i'm not quite sure why its considered a compact truck... its bigger then the old T100...

 

IMO the truck needs a better interior before a V8. I know that's a tall order to cover from a NAPA parts runner to a crew cab LT, but the current interior is really too low brow.

 

Well you probably heard crickets b/c noone was sure.
But if I recall correctly the 4000 tow limit had NOTHING to do with the 5cyl, it was the limit GM decided to stick on due to the notion that any more and the person would step up to a fullsize. I remember reading (on Colorado forums) that people were actually pulling more then 4000lbs on a regular basis and not having any troubles. The people on the forums had reported no issues (such as not enough power) to tow around more. And if that's correct that the limit had nothing to do with the 5cyl, unless they're beefing up the chassis or whatever imposes the limit, I would assume the limit stays the same.

Chris

 

The Colorado work truck (stripper) 2WD standard cab 4-cyl manual transmission weighs 3303.
The Tacoma base model 2WD standard cab 4-cyl manual transmission weighs 3140.
That's 163 pounds lighter on the Toyota's part.

Comparing 4WD loaded to the hilt crew cab automatic top motor instead you get 4062 for the Colorado and 4100 on the nose for the Tacoma.
That's 38 pounds heavier on the Toyota's part.

I'd say they're fairly comparable - at least in terms of weight - which is a better measure of the 'class' of a truck IMO given the fact that you can easily have a short wheelbase 3/4 ton chassis truck that's not as long as, say, a quad cab compact truck. The big difference, however, will be in weight.

By comparison's sake the Silverado starts off over 4200 pounds with the most basic 2WD work truck manual trans V6, and ends up at 5300 pounds well equipped (not including the 1500HDs, to be fair).

For that matter, the Ridgeline ends up at 4500 pounds the only way it comes - AWD, quad cab, loaded up, which is far closer to the Colorado and Tacoma in weight than it is to the 5700 pound Avalanche that everyone seems to believe it should be compared next to.



I've heard of people towing twice the manufacturer recommended tow limit with their vehicles with "no problems". The thing is those ratings don't necessarily mean your motor will blow up and transmission will fall out on the ground... they mean "anything past this and it starts to become unsafe to tow". Those regulations start with safety and end with durability issues.

I bet you could get the average motor to run 500-1000 rpm over redline for quite a while with 'no problems' - at least no obvious perceived problems - until eventual sudden catestrophic failure that in the event of towing, for example, could easily result in injury or death.