What lessons learned are there for GM based on V8 Camaro sales?
03-01-2010, 10:17 AM
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Interesting that the new Camaro is doing so well in a down market time- but probably a lot is pent-up demand- GM enthusiasts have been waiting for this car to come out for a while now- Have to wait and see how it sells in a couple years-
Still a bargain, a lot of performance for the money-
Still a bargain, a lot of performance for the money-
03-01-2010, 10:19 AM
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Get back to me after 2-3 years of sales. All of you people who think this means that these V8 sales are going to pan out need to take step back and look at what happened the last time the F-body hung all of its cred to its superior V8 performance over the Mustang. The sales of the V6 are what will or won't allow the Camaro to live.
This reminds me of all of the fan boys who wait in line for the midnight showing of a movie and then post online about how AWESOME it was.
I suppose because of all the preorders for the 5.0s that it signals a shift in Mustang sales too?
Explain to me how Camaro selling say, 80,000 units with a 75/25 mix in favor of a higher profit V8 model vs 80,000 units sold with a 75/25 mix in favor of the V6 model going to kill the Camaro?
The only way it fails is if there are not enough overall sales to sustain the model.
Or at least that's the way it should be.
03-01-2010, 11:47 AM
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This is the strongest point holding back V-6 sales. People were paying sticker and higher for those V-6 cars. Its been said a million times on here, but usually gets swept under the rug.
03-01-2010, 11:55 AM
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It's great that GM is making a killing selling the high-profit V8 models at such an incredible rate.
My concern is sustainability. Things are humming along great right now, but it's foolhearty to think that Chevy will still be selling 70,000+ Camaro SS models in 2011 and beyond. The V6 car has to be desireable.
My concern is sustainability. Things are humming along great right now, but it's foolhearty to think that Chevy will still be selling 70,000+ Camaro SS models in 2011 and beyond. The V6 car has to be desireable.
03-01-2010, 01:54 PM
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One important fact that folks seem to forget around here is that prior to the 4th gens, V6 Camaro sales never outsold V8s. Furthermore in the final year of production (2002) V8s easily outsold V6s. 
03-01-2010, 02:21 PM
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03-01-2010, 02:53 PM
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Back to the OP I guess this says to GM that even if you build a overweight, under-handling, overweight, plastic interiored, Mustang is better than it on any day, overweight, all around SUV-sized Camaro you can still make a penny.
03-01-2010, 03:26 PM
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03-01-2010, 10:48 PM
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Something to consider..
Maybe the V6 and V8 are too close in price and performance. If you gonna spend the kind of money a 300HP V6 Camaro costs..you should be able to make the leap and afford a V6. Would the Camaro do better if the base engine was a turbo ecotech in the 250rwp range. Would likely allow the V6 to be cheaper.
Maybe the V6 and V8 are too close in price and performance. If you gonna spend the kind of money a 300HP V6 Camaro costs..you should be able to make the leap and afford a V6. Would the Camaro do better if the base engine was a turbo ecotech in the 250rwp range. Would likely allow the V6 to be cheaper.
03-02-2010, 06:25 AM
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Something to consider..
Maybe the V6 and V8 are too close in price and performance. If you gonna spend the kind of money a 300HP V6 Camaro costs..you should be able to make the leap and afford a V6. Would the Camaro do better if the base engine was a turbo ecotech in the 250rwp range. Would likely allow the V6 to be cheaper.
Maybe the V6 and V8 are too close in price and performance. If you gonna spend the kind of money a 300HP V6 Camaro costs..you should be able to make the leap and afford a V6. Would the Camaro do better if the base engine was a turbo ecotech in the 250rwp range. Would likely allow the V6 to be cheaper.
Also, the Camaro 1LT starts at $23,880 (LS is $1000 less but who wants a stripper) and a 1SS starts at $30,945. That is a $7000 more to move up to a V8. Give both cars the RS package and the difference is still $6500. How big do you think the V6 to V8 price spread should be? $7000 seems like a lot to me. That extra ~$150 a month in car payment is a big deal to me.
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