A 4door GTO? Please kill it now if that is the case.

 

Pontiac's Zeta program is seen as more of a replacement for the W-car. What happens or doesn't happen with GTO is unfortunately on the periphery. Let's face facts kids, the GTO made alot of money for Holden but was sort of a sales disappointment for Pontiac. Blame it on the dealers or whatever, but everyone (including me) was forecasting that these 18,000 units would be snapped up quickly. Didn't happen. In fact volume was reduced by 50% and has remained so. Don't think GM hasn't noticed.

OTOH, if Pontiac had a spiritual successor to the GP GXP, with RWD, 400 hp, 6 speed manual....great styling, (which I hear picks up alot of '60s GTO cues but still looks modern)...and had a GTO emblem on it......I'd go buy it....TODAY!

 

Volume was not cut by 50%... it was 33%. And if I recall correctly, that was so the model years could switch from Austrailian timing to American timing so GTO's model year would switch around the same time as the rest of the Pontiacs....

Let's also not forget that GTO was one of the few GM vehicles to stand on it's own most of the year without incentives.

 

Ok I see what you're saying. I was looking at it as a 50% increase from 12K is 18K.

33% cut from 18K is a better way to say it.

 

Any of the insiders who were at the press preview want to confirm. I find it interesting that this was never mentioned until now, whereas much of what was at the preview (next GMT360s, Lambdas, NG CTS, NG Malibu) was mentioned VERY quickly and in fact has been discussed for quite a while. I would think this would have been one of the BIG things to talk about.

 

I thought we already had this awhile back?

 

I fear that Pontiac is very intrigued by what Dodge did with the Charger.

If a 4 door Charger can be a good success....why not GTO....

Personally, I'd much prefer my idea of a G8 GTO package, which would be nothing more than a G8 coupe coupled with the biggest motor available to Pontiac and a 6-speed.

 

No four door GTO, if they must have a four door call it something else.

 

I think it would be cool to have a quad coupe GTO. And as was mentioned above, it would provide more differentiation between a 2+2 two door Camaro and the Goat.

 

Another vote to kill it if its a 4 door.

And for the record, the Charger is a nice car but I would never buy one because of the name.

 

I currently own a GTO but it's my first coupe in awhile. If GM had brought the Commodore SS here I would have snapped one up instead of the GTO. I would reconsider a Quad coupe if it was decently done. Should such a car be called GTO? As others have pointed out, the Charger was coupe-only until recently, and DC still gets a lot of enthusiast scorn. There didn't seem to be such a hue and cry when the Grand Prix went 4-doors in 1990...

IMHO, GM needs to replace the 100k of volume that the W-body Grand Prix sells, before worrying about the 12k of volume the GTO represents. I still think there's room for a next-gen GTO... will Holden's next Monaro be more like the Camaro, or, just like the G8 is riding on the basic VE Commodore design, could a next-gen GTO ride on the VE Monaro design?

 

In all fairness, the Grand Prix name, while having a long history, was never anything even close to the GTO name in stature and following.... so I wouldn't expect a giant outcry of disgust when it went 4 door.... this is the very reason why I thing the Quad-Coupe formula would be much much much better applied to the Monte Carlo nameplate than the GTO nameplate.

And, while a few have been suggesting that the Charger nameplate being put on a 4-door has flown relatively under the radar with little resistance..... that's simply not true at all. A LOT of Mopars fans and others were upset by this and still are. This doesn't mean a car can't sell well, but it does mean that you are upsetting many fans of your nameplate's history.

 

Quad Coupe... ummm SunBird!

 

Some of you talk about the GTO's history like you're quoting the Bible. The GTO is a coupe, it might become a quad coupe. SO WHAT? Does this offend people? If the rumors spoke of FWD and a V6, I'd be right there with you guys, but this is two half-doors. It's a style change.

Also, while people in these circles speak about the new Charger like it's a dark mark on the industry, I can't help but notice a crap load of them on the road. I also notice that Dodge's future seems a lot brighter and clearer right now than that of Pontiac, the "damaged" brand.

And this is a last thing to remember. I've said this before, but I thoroughly beleive that Pontiac's continued existence is NOT assured. I have no inside information whatsoever, but I can read between the lines. Comments from LaNeve mean nothing - they'll say anything to continue selling cars. With this in mind, I think that ANY model that allows Pontiac to be unique and provides them with a viable seller needs to be considered. I love the current GTO (one in our driveway), but it is not that car. Perhaps a quad-coupe GTO is just the sort of out of the box car this brand needs.

 

As long as there is awesome styling a 400HP LS2 and 6 speed autos and manuals at a price of $29,995 or less, then i don't care what they call it.

I supose as long as it looked like a coupe I wouldn't car if the GTO had 4 doors....but the GTO version should only be a V8 car. Keep the V6's named G8