guionM

This was in the Globe & Mail, a canadian business paper:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...Story/Business

There was plenty in my PHR article I couldn't say because of a host of reasons, and the fact I had to stick with published news articles to keep my sources private & keep the magazine from having to deal with unhappy GM people. But if you want to get a good perspective of things you'll be reading in the not too distant future coming out of Canada and GM, read my PHR article (yep, a shameless plug).

Hamtramck seems likely to build RWD SEDANS.

But Oshawa......

DaxsZ28

Wow, just wow.

Burmite

I couldn't believe that I just read that in an offical published source. Seems like around now the floodgates are going to open with information?

Doug Harden

poSSum posted this info on May 6th of this year....thought it sounded familiar.

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...ghlight=oshawa

Z284ever

Maybe......maybe not.

0toinsanein5.4sec

ya i thought this wasnt the first time weve seen this

guionM

That's what happens when your visits to this site lapses at the wrong time.


You got mail.

detltu

Why Canada. I know the St. Therese plant had an exlusive contract or whatever and GM may build it in Canada to satisfy the CAW, but I would really like for the Camaro to be an American Car again(that and I would like to visit the plant ).
They did do a great job on the fourth gen though.
I guess if its Canada or no Camaro I say yeah Canada eh.

jg95z28

Because GM still owes them a ton of $$$$.

SharpShooter_SS

Why not? I have seen this (well, maybe not this exact sentiment in other threads). The whole "US vs them" mentality. So, here we go.... flame suit on. How is a car like the Camaro or any other Big 3 product less "American" if assembled in Canada than the US? Our domestic manufacturers - the Big 3 - are the same as yours. What exactly is "Made in the USA" as far as automobiles go, does anyone know? Designs, processes, both major and minor parts and assemblies are sourced from producers around the globe. There is no completely "Made in USA" or "Made in Canada" or "Made in where ever else" cars anymore. If there ever were, except, maybe when the auto industry was fledgling.

For that matter the much beloved LS-x series engines are assembled in either St. Catherines, Ontario or in Mexico. Yet, we don't hear too much complaining about the point of origin of the engiines. They're just GM engines. Well, guess what they're just GM cars. Last time I checked the Oshawa assembly plants were pretty highly regarded as highly productive, efficient plants that put out some of GMNA's best quality cars and trucks.

That's what matters, best quality. Period.

Really, it's beyond me how GMNA could ever have let itself "forget" how to put together cars like GTO-Monaro or Commodore or whatever. Cars that are compelling to look at - inside and out, drive the right wheels, are screwed together well, use top shelf materials and are worth aspiring to own on those merits. It's almost unforgiveable that we are forced to choose amongst the ho-hum, watered-down product they sell here when there is (apparently) so much better available elsewhere. It doesn't matter where it's built. The highest quality GM cars should be available to all prospective consumers around the globe but especially here in NA. Who cares where they're "made". Maybe that 's why consumers have abandoned the Big 3 for Japanese makes.

This whole "Made in the USA or else" bent with the Camaro/GTO is so much tripe. Case in point, the GTO, a high class piece of quality work, lambasted (by some) because its not American, it's Australian in origin. So what? It's not really Australian either. The underpinnings were originally German, the powertrain is, you guessed it, GMNA. No, the car may not be perfect for some tastes, but it certainly is better than anything else GM peddles here (OK, not "here", but in the US) outside of the A&S Cadillacs or the Vette.

Sorry for the rant. I'm not targeting individual posters so don't get offended, just the sentiment, and the narrow-mindedness of some of these posts that make their way here and go unchallenged.

The real question is this: Is (will) the car less Camaro (GTO, Impala, insert car name here) than before, or not? Not whether or not it's "American".

number77

ANY COMMENTS FROM RED?

krazzycowgirl

Right now I Know Reds not in his office. But I dont think even if he could make a comment he would. He wasnt saying anything this last weekend about it.

TA76

Sharpshooter, I think my two Canadian assembled 4th gens are the best built f-bodies I've ever owned. I have no problem with our friends to the North building the next generation.

guionM

I haven't had any assembly problems with my Camaro either.

...only some items of the engineering done here.

SharpShooter_SS

I don't think that there should be any differentiation in opinion based upon where the car is assembled. I'm not saying that I think the Camaro should be built in Oshawa. I don't care where the car is assembled - be it in Canada or in the US, so long as it is as high quality as it can possibly be - all things being equal. I just get kind of upset when I see anti-US, anti-Canada, or anti-Australia rants and rhetoric because a given "icon" such as Camaro or GTO is produced in one locale over another. This stuff is just stupid. It should be about the car, it's pros, cons, quality and execution and whether or not it satisfies the needs (although with muscle cars, it's more about wants than needs:-) of the particualr market.

I'd buy it regardless, if I wanted one bad enough, could afford it, or thought it would satisfy my particular needs/wants; point of origin is waaaay down on the list of possible objections.

BTW, I'm more than happy with my two Lansing assembled cars. I can't speak for other Canadians (or anyone else), but I'm pretty sure anyone who purchased cars assembled in Ste. Therese, or Oshawa et all, never thought for a moment that they were buying a Canadian car (at least here in Canada). We don't look at cars like that, as fas as I know. A Chev is a Chev, a Ford is a Ford - (read: American), a Toyota is a Toyota (read: Japanese) and so on; even if they are assembled here. In actuality, every car sold here is "foreign" as there are no "Canadian" car companies.