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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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BTW is was 1999 and it was Green in color with I believe an LS1. It was on the Hot Rod East Coast Power Tour at the time along with the first Chevy Nomad concept.

I have a picture of it somewhere.
That was before 1999 because I remember reading the article...in my high school library...I graduated in May 1998.

That just made me feel old, but at least I can sorta pinpoint when that car was around
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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How about an Aluminum S/C HV V6? Lighter than a V8 and more power than a Turbo 4 cyl.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 10:55 AM
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How about an Aluminum S/C HV V6? Lighter than a V8 and more power than a Turbo 4 cyl.
I'd question whether or not a V6 with a blower is less heavy than a naturally aspirated V8....

The rest of the powertrain might require more beef with the V8, but the blower probably offsets the two extra cylinders pretty closely.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason E
That was before 1999 because I remember reading the article...in my high school library...I graduated in May 1998.

That just made me feel old, but at least I can sorta pinpoint when that car was around
WTH?!?! Makes you feel old?!?! Hell, I graduated high school in 1975....dang, you're still wet behind yer ears.....me, I'm older than dirt....
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by PacerX
"If it'll fit a V6 and an I4, it'll fit a V8."
Originally Posted by Patches O'Houlihan
If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.
Dunno why I thought of that quote
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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Depending how they will engineer the turbo set up, but it's possible to have 100% of the torque from somewhere like 1800 RPM all the way to 5000 - 5500 RPM. Just look at Audi/VW 2.0T engines and Volvo's turbo engines.
Yeah, but those Audi engines aren't going to supposedly make 240hp or more. My bet will be that there will be at least alittle lag, although nothing like an Evo.

It would be nice if GM started their own direct fuel injection systems. I bring this up because the Audi/VW engines are or will be taking advantage of the higher compression tolerances their FSI engines allow, thus reducing turbo lag even more.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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Yeah, but those Audi engines aren't going to supposedly make 240hp or more. My bet will be that there will be at least alittle lag, although nothing like an Evo.

It would be nice if GM started their own direct fuel injection systems. I bring this up because the Audi/VW engines are or will be taking advantage of the higher compression tolerances their FSI engines allow, thus reducing turbo lag even more.
Soon enough GM will have DI. There are already reports of DI versions of the 3.6 HF making 300 hp. I say give GM a little time.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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Re: V8 Solstice from GM

Originally Posted by muckz
Depending how they will engineer the turbo set up, but it's possible to have 100% of the torque from somewhere like 1800 RPM all the way to 5000 - 5500 RPM. Just look at Audi/VW 2.0T engines and Volvo's turbo engines.

The STI's 2.5L turbo 4 has good low-midrange tq. It makes a nice peak of 300 lb/ft as well.

The drivetrain will be just fine with a v8. The rear end is from a near 4000 poud car (as well as the upgraded version for the CTS-v) And the trans is from a truck with at least a 5k tow rating. Im sure it can handle a LS2.

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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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The STI's 2.5L turbo 4 has good low-midrange tq. It makes a nice peak of 300 lb/ft as well.

The drivetrain will be just fine with a v8. The rear end is from a near 4000 poud car (as well as the upgraded version for the CTS-v) And the trans is from a truck with at least a 5k tow rating. Im sure it can handle a LS2.
What transmission is it?

For manuals, I wouldn't trust anything but a T-56 behind an LSx, and since it's a 5-speed it isn't a T-56.
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 07:37 AM
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Expect 6 speeds behind GXP and Redline models ( I think I remember that right, I'm getting old ) Let's see what the turbos are packing before we start the "there's gotta be a V8 in this car to be fast" talk. When the aftermarket catches up with the turbo ecotecs, there will be no issues with sky high power numbers.

A little tidbit...peak torque on the FI motors will be well under 2000rpms and flat as a tabletop. GM powertrain really outdid themselves in tuning on these beasts.

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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by IREngineer
Expect 6 speeds behind GXP and Redline models ( I think I remember that right, I'm getting old ) Let's see what the turbos are packing before we start the "there's gotta be a V8 in this car to be fast" talk. When the aftermarket catches up with the turbo ecotecs, there will be no issues with sky high power numbers.
A very good point.

The only issue will be whether the supporting cast is up to the task (chassis, transmission, rear end, driveshaft, clutch).
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 07:56 AM
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But that' s the great thing about turbo cars...the initial hit isn't as brutal, so drivelines
"should" hold up better....
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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But that' s the great thing about turbo cars...the initial hit isn't as brutal, so drivelines
"should" hold up better....
Hmmm...

I have to think about this...

The way I got this figured, 400 ft-lbs is 400 ft-lbs. Now, that might be very wrong, so I shall put my dunce cap on and ponder...
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 08:28 AM
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Go sit in the corner young man......of course it is, but most driveline failures are during the initial hit....you know, trying to move 3***#'s from a dead stop is harder than pushing it faster after already moving.......come on now, I'm just playin' Mr. Optomistic.....
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by IREngineer
Expect 6 speeds behind GXP and Redline models ( I think I remember that right, I'm getting old ) Let's see what the turbos are packing before we start the "there's gotta be a V8 in this car to be fast" talk. When the aftermarket catches up with the turbo ecotecs, there will be no issues with sky high power numbers.

A little tidbit...peak torque on the FI motors will be well under 2000rpms and flat as a tabletop. GM powertrain really outdid themselves in tuning on these beasts.
I guess you have seen the little beast or at least have seen specs, good to know they are really out there. I would expect the 6 speed to be the same as the one behind the 3.5 VQ in the 350Z and G35, am I correct in my assumption?



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