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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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For those of you still wondering about GT-R numbers . . .

The first "same track, same driver" numbers are in. This was at Buttonwillow, a 2.7 mile course.

Bottom line: the GT-R was smoked by the Viper and the Porsche.

Of course, it still won the Car and Drivel comparison, based on things like "back seat" and "driver comfort."

Here are the numbers:

Corvette Z06

0-60 mph 3.8 sec
1/4 mile 11.9 @ 124
Lap time 2:01.7 / 79.9 MPH

Viper SRT10 ACR

0-60 mph 3.4 sec
1/4 mile 11.8 @ 126
Lap time 1:55.7 / 84.0 MPH

Porsche GT2

0-60 mph 3.7 sec
1/4 mile 11.8 @ 121
Lap time 1:59.7 / 81.2 MPH

Nissan GTR

0-60 mph 4.1 sec
1/4 mile 12.6 @ 111
Lap time 2:01.1 / 80.3 MPH
Old Jun 24, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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That's the worst GT-R 1/4 mile time I've seen so far. None of the times are impressive(even when compared to other mags), but 12.6 is friggin terrible. I wonder what their excuse is.

Any links?

Viper is looking damn good. I never liked it before they put that hood on it with that dark emerald green...And gave it 600 horsepower...lol.
Old Jun 24, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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The elephant in the room has to be the Z06's performance, so I'll bring it up early. WTF?

I've driven the GT2 and found it to be jaw-dropping - but the price tag was a bit steep, even for my extravagant tastes
Old Jun 24, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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Any links?
August 2008 Car and Driver issue--the NAGTROC put up some scans here:

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=23102
Old Jun 24, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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Interesting! A little surprised by the Z06 numbers, some of the worst I have seen for a Z. However, the numbers are more inline with what I was expecting out of a non-ringer GTR. You simply cannot overcome the fundamental laws of physics.

The Viper, on the other hand, is damn impressive!(and dare I say it, sexy as hell!!!!)
Old Jun 24, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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nissan lied
Old Jun 24, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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Gotta wonder if the Vette would have done better if the tires were equal. 6 seconds is a wide margin, though.

Edit: Well its no wonder the Viper did so well, its a track prepped car that came with an engineer to dial it in.

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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 01:18 AM
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it looks to me that they ran in a configuration that benefitted the GT-R's cornering abilities and AWD, yet "low" power. Instead of turning at "Segment 2" and at Lost Hill, the straightline power of everything else would have pulled away fro the GT-R even more.
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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So these times overrule all other times published to date? Or do they just indicate what we already knew 'results may vary'?
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 10:24 AM
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I think the point was that the times are all on the same field, in the same game.
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by graham
I think the point was that the times are all on the same field, in the same game.
In this instance. We've also seen times where the GT-R dominated. So unless those times were falsified then I'd say this only proves that in some circumstances the cars can be on par, and in others the GT-R will dominate. Meaning overall the edge still goes to the GT-R.

There are always going to be variables that will put two cars on par with each other when they typically wouldn't be.

I'm not saying that's the case here... I know very little about the cars in question except that I've read other results where the GT-R was killing the rest of the pack. Maybe those were lies though.
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 10:47 AM
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What did the GTR dominate?
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Threxx
In this instance. We've also seen times where the GT-R dominated. So unless those times were falsified then I'd say this only proves that in some circumstances the cars can be on par, and in others the GT-R will dominate. Meaning overall the edge still goes to the GT-R.

There are always going to be variables that will put two cars on par with each other when they typically wouldn't be.

I'm not saying that's the case here... I know very little about the cars in question except that I've read other results where the GT-R was killing the rest of the pack. Maybe those were lies though.
I haven't read anything where a GT-R went head to head with anything (I don't keep up though, so I may have just missed it). I've seen 'ring numbers, which may or may not include actually completely lapping the track, or specify a standing or running start. Can't make much of a comparison with that. Maybe there are some 1/4 mile times posted, but tracks and conditions vary. This is the first 'fair' comparison I've heard about so far. I didn't read the article, but I'm assuming they were all stock vehicles? Stock tires..etc.
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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but I'm assuming they were all stock vehicles? Stock tires..etc.
Viper is a race-ready car, so its rubber is rather sticky. I suspect Porsche GT2 also comes with high quality rubber - it is GT2 after all.

Nissan and Z06 probably have the worst rubber of the bunch.
Old Jun 25, 2008 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by graham
What did the GTR dominate?
The GTR beat the Z06 and 911 Turbo by something like a 4 second margin in some road course test done by Road and Track.

Wierd numbers... they make me scratch my head. I've seen everything from 116-124mph traps for the GTR. Ive never seen such inconsistent data for any vehicle, and I've been reading car mags a long time. It makes me wonder what configuration the cars were tested in.. US vs Japanese spec, and whether some of the cars were abused prior to landing in the hands of editors.

It will be intersting to hear real world numbers once owners start getting them in their hands.



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