Ford Shelby GT maybe,Shelby GT (refering to the Mustang)Dont hold your breath.Youll get more from holding yourself.

 

I thought the same thing when I heard the name GT40 wasn't going to be used.

 

Since Ford messed up and lost the rights to the name of THEIR MOST FAMOUS RACE CAR, THE "GT-40", I think they should call the new car the "GT-Fordy."

 

as for this super cooler thing, sounds like it could work(yeah, i thought of it to), but that would be putting alot of stress the a/c or whatever they all it, i'm sure they have worked out the bugs in the system, but it would be better to just have the thing work like a fridgerator, maybe chevy should do that, if you opened a fridge for a while the ELECTRIC motor would burn out, but if you got an actuall engine behind it, you could just run another belt to the crank or whatever, plus this would constantly cool the air instead of being let out in intervals

 

You're not the only one dreaming this up

 

The airconditioning units used in Australian cars are of a much heavier duty than the units here, and have a far greater output. So I don't think it would be much of an issue boosting AC capacity for a intercooler.

Any AC&R guys here want to chime in?

 

The cooler wont always be on guys,It is for short bursts.Imagine going to the strip with that,It would kinda be like NOS.It would run out in a couple seconds

 

Everyone knows that whenever the A/C compressor is running it is robbing the engine of horsepower. I wonder if they've figured out how to minimize the amount of power being used to run the compressor before the cold air charge is used. If the engine has to bog down before you get the big burst of power, what's the point? I'd almost find it annoying.

 

That's true, but it also robs the engine of some power to make the supercharger turn. It's more than made up for by the power the supercharger adds.
I think this will be the same way. It will take some power to turn the AC condensor or whatever, but it says it adds 50-60hp. I think that should more than make up for the power being leached.

 

On alot of Ford products the A/C pump shuts off during W.O.T.

 

I also had a similar idea. But mine was a compressed air injection system that channeled highly compressed air (boost) into the engine until the container was empty. The engine would produce small amounts of air that would gradually fill up the container. When full, the system could be activated to send highly compressed air into the engine. I thought it would be cool, although I doubt it would even have a chance of working. lol

 

I realize that, in fact I believe most of today's cars are designed to stop the A/C compressor while the engine is at WOT. However at cruise or with a slight jab of the throttle the compressor won't stop. I realize that the car will already have monsterous levels of power as-is so it won't be a big issue to most, but you can probably still feel the difference.

 

Fords with A/c made after '79 all had relay-controlled A/C clutches. The control of the clutch has gotten more complex through the years, going from a straight switch on the control panel, to a Vacuum secondary switch, to the TPS sensor when EFI came in around '86, to the current mix of manual switch, EEC-IV computer, and driving condition sensors.

The cold shot ONLY works at WOT, not all the time or even 3/4 throttle. Likewise, the TPS activates a relay that controls the electric clutch on the A/C, disengaging it. The disengagement can be...
1)controlled by the EEC system when WOT is detected and then re-engaged after a period of time, or
2)switched back on when the TPS is at 1/2 throttle or less AND the vacuum and torque requirements are below a preset value. (The same parameters currently control automatic tranny's electronic shift into OD and converter lock-up BTW.)

The whole point is that it takes some time for the A/C unit to pre-cool the air-to-air heat exchanger PRIOR to it's being used, this cold shot is ONLY used at WOT, and the A/C compressor will NOT be operating while at WOT. So by the time you get the pedal all the way down, you should already be well "hooked-up" and able to take all the power to the street. If you're having a hard time keeping hooked-up at 3/4 throttle, this ain't gonna do you a bit of good, and in fact may hurt you at hard shifts.

It's actually a pretty cool idea. But as a mechanical engineer, I tend to be skeptical of "gadgetry", and this system depends on MANY gadgets to function properly. I have to say that I am questioning it's long-term reliability. NOT the engine/blower mind you, just this "blow-me-cool" A/C-on-demand system.

BTW, you guys are all OK in my book...
How in the world we took this thread from a misunderstood GT comment to discussing the next gen Lightning motor is amazing. You've all got some pretty open minds and are thinking outside the box.
KUDOS.

I'm gonna start a motion to have all GM management ousted, and have you guys in this forum installed as the board of directors and product steering committee members. I'll get back to you all as soon as I have some results to report...

 

Just an off-topic thought: What if the whole name rights ordeal with the GT40 happened to the Camaro or Firebird. It would suck to have some third party company refusing to allow the Camaro to have its name back.

 

I doubt GM would lack the forsight to sell those names to any third-party company.