"Sub-Theta"
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"Sub-Theta"
I can see Chevy, and maybe Saturn getting them... but.... why would they even consider Buick? 
I suppose it would put a variant in all 3 dealer groups (Chevy/Cadillac, Saturn, Buick/Pontiac/GMC) but... does it need to be in all three? I doubt it.
Either way, I suppose this is a growing market, especially with SUV's high popularity, but the new "gas scare"... a small RAV-4 sized mini-SUV is called for.
I suppose it would put a variant in all 3 dealer groups (Chevy/Cadillac, Saturn, Buick/Pontiac/GMC) but... does it need to be in all three? I doubt it.Either way, I suppose this is a growing market, especially with SUV's high popularity, but the new "gas scare"... a small RAV-4 sized mini-SUV is called for.
Originally Posted by AutoWeek
GM planning to beef up its lineup of small sport wagons by '08
JASON STEIN | Automotive News
Posted Date: 7/18/05
DETROIT -- General Motors will beef up its lineup of small sport wagons with at least two unibody vehicles in 2008.
Company, industry and supplier sources say GM is developing vehicles for Chevrolet and Saturn. They would face established rivals such as the Toyota RAV4, Honda CR-V and Ford Escape. GM is considering a similar vehicle for Buick.
The small sport wagons will debut late in 2008 as 2009 models on an architecture referred to internally as "sub-Theta." They are under development in the United States, with help from GM Daewoo Auto & Technology.
Theta is the architecture for GM's current front-wheel-drive sport wagons, such as the Chevrolet Equinox and Saturn Vue. GM's newest offerings would be smaller than current Thetas, which are larger than the RAV4 and CR-V.
GM's decision likely is a response to the growing number of small sport wagons offered by Asian automakers.
The Asians have had a strong presence in the segment since the 1996 U.S. debut of the RAV4. The Honda CR-V hit the market a year later.
Since then, the market for RAV4-sized sport wagons has become more competitive. Hyundai introduced the Tucson last year. The Chrysler group is developing a car-based Jeep that will debut next year. Volkswagen is expected to introduce a sport wagon based on the Golf in the 2008 model year.
Ford sold 183,430 units of the Escape last year, an increase from the 167,678 units sold in 2003. Honda sold 149,281 units of the CR-V last year. Saturn sold 86,957 Vues in 2004.
GM uses the term "architecture" to signify a set of common components, performance characteristics, a common manufacturing process and a range of dimensions and connecting points for key component systems.
JASON STEIN | Automotive News
Posted Date: 7/18/05
DETROIT -- General Motors will beef up its lineup of small sport wagons with at least two unibody vehicles in 2008.
Company, industry and supplier sources say GM is developing vehicles for Chevrolet and Saturn. They would face established rivals such as the Toyota RAV4, Honda CR-V and Ford Escape. GM is considering a similar vehicle for Buick.
The small sport wagons will debut late in 2008 as 2009 models on an architecture referred to internally as "sub-Theta." They are under development in the United States, with help from GM Daewoo Auto & Technology.
Theta is the architecture for GM's current front-wheel-drive sport wagons, such as the Chevrolet Equinox and Saturn Vue. GM's newest offerings would be smaller than current Thetas, which are larger than the RAV4 and CR-V.
GM's decision likely is a response to the growing number of small sport wagons offered by Asian automakers.
The Asians have had a strong presence in the segment since the 1996 U.S. debut of the RAV4. The Honda CR-V hit the market a year later.
Since then, the market for RAV4-sized sport wagons has become more competitive. Hyundai introduced the Tucson last year. The Chrysler group is developing a car-based Jeep that will debut next year. Volkswagen is expected to introduce a sport wagon based on the Golf in the 2008 model year.
Ford sold 183,430 units of the Escape last year, an increase from the 167,678 units sold in 2003. Honda sold 149,281 units of the CR-V last year. Saturn sold 86,957 Vues in 2004.
GM uses the term "architecture" to signify a set of common components, performance characteristics, a common manufacturing process and a range of dimensions and connecting points for key component systems.
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Re: "Sub-Theta"
New GM sport wagons sounded like a nice idea, but their use of "sport wagon" is pretty liberal. I hear that term and think Audi, WRX, or even Magnum, but a Chevy Equinox... 
Neither "sport" nor "wagon."
Neither "sport" nor "wagon."
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Re: "Sub-Theta"
Originally Posted by jrp4uc
New GM sport wagons sounded like a nice idea, but their use of "sport wagon" is pretty liberal. I hear that term and think Audi, WRX, or even Magnum, but a Chevy Equinox... Neither "sport" nor "wagon."
Neither "sport" nor "wagon."Agreed.
When I think of a RAV-4 or a CRV, I think "Cute-Ute" or "Micro-Ute" or something like that....
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Re: "Sub-Theta"
sub-Theta Buick would be, in theory, replacing Rendezvous. But the Buick Lamba would be as well, right?. Sounds weird, doesn't it? Just passing on what I heard. And if Buick gets one, where does that leave Torrent?? hmm...
