http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=16114

Oh happy day.

 

So what kind of mods. come with each kit and what power levels will they achieve?

 

Stage one is injectors and a reflash. Stage II is a smaller pulley; belt and a reflash. The Reflash is the most important part of the kit snice no one has been able to properly tune them yet. Looking at a 10% increase in power for the stage I and a 17% increase for stage II.


We'll know more in about a week when people get to install them and take them to a dyno.

Oh, and its warranty helps it too.

 

Those sound like some decent packages. Its nice to see GM finally step up and offer stuff like that.

 

Stage 2 17%? Less than 40 horsepower at the flywheel? It had better be relatively inexpensive for that price - like under a grand installed including warranty.

Speaking of that, can you still get an OEM 100k mile warranty with the Stage 2?

Lastly, will there be a Stage 3?

 

And if there is a stage 3, what will it consist of? I would want impressive numbers from the stage 3 upgrade.

 

probably a bigger/more efficient blower

 

lol cobalts

 

Care to explain why Cobalts make you laugh?

 

About damn time. Is it official that there's a seperate reflash for the stage 2?

 

Its even better in a Saturn Redline. No one expects a thing from a saturn, and then you just walk them. (this is all in the 14 sec. world of honda's and whatnot, of course)

 

No one has dynod anything yet so the 17% is just taking gms word for it. They claim the stage 2 is 240 HP. Now, most people have dynod about 210 to the wheels on a mustang dyno and 225+ on a dynojet.(I go 228 on a dynojet). So i would be hopping for about 265 to wheels. Im one of those people who are willing to wait for other people to dyno before I buy it.

Pricing is seems to be $650 dollars from most dealers. (one has it for $555 plus shipping, havent called to see what shipping would run me here.)

The install is listed as 1.5 hours. Installing yourself does not void the warrenty.(still have to take it to the dealer to get it reflashed.) Not sure how it effects the 100,000 mile warrenty. Though I need to check that out because I have the 100,000 mile warrenty.

If a stage 3 comes out it would likely include a clutch. They were working on a stage 3 to be released at the same time. But this was pushed back due to concerns that the clutch wont hold up to 300 Hp. (and from what people have seen with the aftermarket kits that is a true story)

I just spent $260 bucks for the LS spoiler so I can see out of my rear view mirror. So it will be a few months before I buy the kit. Im ok with being slower than other people and let them test the parts for any realiablity issues.

Stl. No one has a clue if its a different reflash yet. Signs point to yes....There are a few people buying just the stage 1 and going with an aftermarket pulley. They'll be able to tell if it is a different reflash

 

Maybe after the stage 2, you cobalt SS guys will be able to keep up with us stock srt4's

Just teasing ya know!

 

My stock ET was a whole .02 faster than yours.( And 2 mph slower too)

Anywho. The stage II reflash increases the redline to 7000