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View Poll Results: Which SS model(s) should be cut or named something else?
Silverado SS
33
23.57%
Impala SS
24
17.14%
Monte Carlo SS
30
21.43%
Malibu SS
63
45.00%
Colbalt SS
19
13.57%
Colorado SS
28
20.00%
Aveo SS
121
86.43%
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Which SS model should get a bullet

Old Nov 28, 2004 | 08:50 PM
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"Semi-Sport"

Lol, I bet you can at least get a 5-speed in the AVEO SS and Cobalt SS. As for the rest.. calling themselves "Super Sport" and not even offering a manual transmisson OR having class leading horsepower...well that's just sad.
Old Nov 28, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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Re: Which SS model should get a bullet

None of them really set ones soul on fire. The only thing that remotely interests me might be the SS Colorado depending on how much power it gets.

The Impala and Monte don't interest me due to the FWD configuration and I'm not a huge fan of the looks of either car.
The SS Cobalt...eh. Considering it's going to be inferior power wise to the SRT-4 and about the same price I'm not so sold on that either.
The SS Silverado's weaknesses are readily evident so I don't need to speak on that.
The prospect of the SS Aveo just flat out scares me.

Maybe my own preconceived notions of what SS is are totally wrong but I always equated the SS models with beastly performance...get out of the way before I bash your head in kind of power. Not "Hey look! This car has a different set of rims and a lame bodykit."
Old Nov 29, 2004 | 03:41 AM
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Re: Which SS model should get a bullet

Originally Posted by Bud M
All of 'em! If its not a MUSCLE CAR it doesn't deserve the SS designation. What makes the SS memorable is big motors. Not V6s or fours. My neighbor has a '66 Chevelle Super Sport with a 454 and a 4 speed and short gears, maybe 4.11s. It will smoke the tires all day long. Its fast and loud and rowdy and has the sort of outrageousness that defines the SS designation. Putting SS on econo cars and sedans and pickups (even though they may have performance upgrades) makes it nothing more than a marketing gimmick and detracts from its future value. These cars contribute as much to the SS legacy as the Mustang II did to the Mustang's.
funny thing is you could get the SS package on V6 cars back then, just wasnt popular to do I guess..or was it an inline6???

and yes you would get a SS StATION WAGON!
Old Nov 29, 2004 | 09:20 AM
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Re: Which SS model should get a bullet

I think a FI Aveo with 16's shouldnt get the SS plaque - but the thought of a tiny 1.6L boosted engine has hope. The 2.0L boosted engine would be too much power and too big an engine (weight). I think a 1.6L Turbo (to like 165hp or 175hp) would be a good idea, or perhaps like a 1.5L or 1.6L turbo diesel.

Otherwise I dont think an Econobox deserves "SS". Even the Cobalt SS doesnt do it for me. I think "RS" might be a little more fitting. But hey, if it does well... it does well.
Old Nov 29, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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Re: Which SS model should get a bullet

haha i must have had a pretty good idea about the Aveo a while back in this thread (aveo ss) http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=309323

TONY 2.0 s/c Aveo SS
Old Nov 29, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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Re: "Semi-Sport"

Originally Posted by WERM
Lol, I bet you can at least get a 5-speed in the AVEO SS and Cobalt SS. As for the rest.. calling themselves "Super Sport" and not even offering a manual transmisson OR having class leading horsepower...well that's just sad.
Agreed, none of those cars are as tremendous as most people's memory of an SS that memory may be wrong, but im sure it helps sell cars.

I've noticed my camaro seems to get more respect when I say "Z28" as apposed to "SS" lately, I never bother saying "Z28 SS" I think its because most non car people are becoming more familiar with watered down performance offerings such as they above.
Old Nov 29, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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Re: "Semi-Sport"

I dont think that Chevy will get rid of the Maxx. Despite its sales, it gets great reviews from pretty much every mag and owner. Make a SS model to add a really hot hatchback to the line up.
Old Nov 29, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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Re: Which SS model should get a bullet

Originally Posted by Z284ever
Your buddy's Chevelle didn't come from the factory with a 454, and I bet it wasn't even an SS from the factory either. He probably stuck those SS emblems on after he dropped in that 454. Rather than contributing to factory SS legacy....what your neighbor has is a homebuilt hotrod.

And BTW, regarding SS's that actually came from the factory.....

Nova SS
Chevelle SS
Impala SS

These were all "econo cars and sedans".
Old Nov 29, 2004 | 11:00 AM
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Re: Which SS model should get a bullet

I think that people treat the SS badge the same way as they treat the GTO. It has to be on a rip-snorting, V8 powerd muscle car, or its nothing.
I even get a chill up my spine thinking about an Aveo SS, but I think it needs to come down to how the market will react to the car. Will people buy a turbocharged Aveo, despite the badges?
Old Nov 29, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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Re: Which SS model should get a bullet

Originally Posted by Bud M
All of 'em! If its not a MUSCLE CAR it doesn't deserve the SS designation. What makes the SS memorable is big motors. Not V6s or fours. My neighbor has a '66 Chevelle Super Sport with a 454 and a 4 speed and short gears, maybe 4.11s. It will smoke the tires all day long. Its fast and loud and rowdy and has the sort of outrageousness that defines the SS designation. Putting SS on econo cars and sedans and pickups (even though they may have performance upgrades) makes it nothing more than a marketing gimmick and detracts from its future value. These cars contribute as much to the SS legacy as the Mustang II did to the Mustang's.
based on this reply, i would wager that you think carbs are better than EFI for performance.

fact is, you said it on page 2 or 3 that SS is a stick package on a car with hotter performance. why not have all of these cars with better drivetrains and suspensions? if it waters down the name then thats the fault of those that dont know what they are talking about. i would be up for a Colorado SS. in fact if its hot enough i may want to trade my Sport in for one.

as for SS cars needing sticks, i think all cars need a manual transmission variant. but know that you could have gotten an SS Camaro with an auto. an SS Chevelle with an auto ect.

also dont forget the stupid sticker package that GM gave the SS 4th gens. if anything, THAT dilluted the SS nameplate. not a better performing Aveo.
Old Nov 29, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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Re: Which SS model should get a bullet

Putting "SS" on an Aveo makes me want to hurl.

That's a personal opinion, btw.
Old Nov 29, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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Re: Which SS model should get a bullet

Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
Putting "SS" on an Aveo makes me want to hurl.

That's a personal opinion, btw.
Ya, I gotta agree.

Here's my line of thought on putting "SS" on a car liek Aveo:

Which are you accomplishing by doing so:

1) Helping the image of Aveo, or

2) Hurting the image of the "SS" designation.

I think it is clearly #2.

I have no problem with making a sporty version of the Aveo... just call is Aveo LS or something.
Old Nov 29, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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Re: Which SS model should get a bullet

Originally Posted by Darth Xed
I have no problem with making a sporty version of the Aveo... just call is Aveo LS or something.
The only problm with that is that LS sounds like your mom's Malibu.

RS maybe?
Old Nov 29, 2004 | 12:32 PM
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Re: Which SS model should get a bullet

While I have to admit that I find the idea of an Aveo SS pretty silly, and my preference would be to see more RWD V8 performance vehicles from Chevy, I don't think that these models are the "Shame" to the SS name that many people make them out to be. Stock for stock:

Cobalt SS SC - I bet this car will outrun and outhandle 85% of the Nova SS models made in the musclecar era.

Monte Carlo SS SC - This car will run pretty close to a 70 SS 454 (only available with LS5 and HEAVY) and will have no problems with any 83-87 305 powered Monte SS.

Impala SS SC - This car will outrun 95% of the Impala SS models made in the musclecar era and will hang with the LT1 B Body models.

I'm not including "cool" factor here, and the new models can't compete in my eyes there, but if we're looking at cold, hard performance numbers, the new SS models will hang right in there with the old boys. For every L79 327/350 horse Nova SS or L78 396/375 Nova SS or COPO 427 Nova that was built there are probably 5000 inline 6, 283, and LoPo 327 and 350 cars. The Impala SS models of the 60s are beatiful, competent cars, but with the exception of a handful of cars, like the 409/409s, were too heavy to be total terrors, even with big blocks.
Old Nov 29, 2004 | 12:34 PM
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Re: Which SS model should get a bullet

Originally Posted by HAZ-Matt
The only problm with that is that LS sounds like your mom's Malibu.

RS maybe?

I even think that the "Xtreme" name could fit here... since it was used on a "cute" S-10 that was dressed up a bit, yet it has a sound, that I think would appeal to the audience this car would be targetted at...

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