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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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Solstice turbo/sc car at launch ?

Will the Solstice get the force fed engineat launch or soon after. Any word on what the upgraded motor will be?
Old Jul 29, 2004 | 12:40 AM
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I had read somewhere that Lutz said there will be a 200hp engine upon launch. Perhaps the supercharged 2.0 from the Cobalt/Ion? Would be nice to have about 240hp on tap.
Old Jul 29, 2004 | 01:01 AM
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A very well known shop (patriot performance) has stage 1 and 2 ported Ecotec heads and cams. It would be nice to have a low compression rwd 4 cyl set up for boost from the factory. Swap the blower for a good turbo set-up......

I think its a good thing that GM is going to dabble in the Compact crowd with something that pushes not pulls the car.
Old Jul 29, 2004 | 01:05 AM
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The 2.0 motor is all forged from Saab, so it should be plenty ready for boost! There is already a turbo 2.0 motor...in europe.
Old Jul 29, 2004 | 07:31 AM
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FI engine (GXP) will be out 2nd year of production. '89 Trans Am's little brother if you will...
Old Jul 29, 2004 | 07:56 AM
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I think holding back on the FI was a bad move, unless they launch it a few months after the regular Solstice.
Old Jul 29, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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I dont think holding back is a bad idea. No one has a problem with Ford when they release model after model, but when its GM's turn then they are stupid and why bother?
Without turning this into another Mustang thread, save the power for later on.
Old Jul 29, 2004 | 10:36 AM
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If this 200 HP is NA, then the compression ratio will be high, I would think at around 11.

There were ECOTECs pushing 700HP, boosted, with pretty good reliability. How much PSI is SAAB ecotec pushing?
Old Jul 29, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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Re: Solstice turbo/sc car at launch ?

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I think holding back on the FI was a bad move, unless they launch it a few months after the regular Solstice.
Not really.

The purpose of performance models of any car is to create intrest in the car. The Solstice will sell very well, & have lots of intrest the 1st year, so it's not a problem.

Also, and probally the bigger reason, is that there is a team that's assigned to each car line. The 1st year, that team is busy getting the car out & trouble shooting, so there really isn't much time to screw together a performance package till after the car is out.
Old Jul 29, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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Re: Solstice turbo/sc car at launch ?

Originally Posted by muckz
If this 200 HP is NA, then the compression ratio will be high, I would think at around 11.

There were ECOTECs pushing 700HP, boosted, with pretty good reliability. How much PSI is SAAB ecotec pushing?
Saab's ecotec is a GM ecotec. The turbo 2.0 makes 210hp, but I dont know how much psi its running. I heard there is some turbo lag. The 2.0 motor going into the cobalt SS and that is in the Ion RL is forged for your protection, so turn up that dial!
Old Jul 29, 2004 | 10:49 AM
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Re: Solstice turbo/sc car at launch ?

Werent ya'll just discussing how the Solstice will most likely be called a "Firebird"?
Old Jul 29, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by guionM
Not really.

The purpose of performance models of any car is to create intrest in the car. The Solstice will sell very well, & have lots of intrest the 1st year, so it's not a problem.

Also, and probally the bigger reason, is that there is a team that's assigned to each car line. The 1st year, that team is busy getting the car out & trouble shooting, so there really isn't much time to screw together a performance package till after the car is out.
I understand releasing it 8mo-1yr. later, that will work with the Z06 and later with the blue devil, but sometimes it hurts the products image and GMs image if the publics first impression of the car is negative due to lack of power. (SSR, GTO, Silverado SS, '00 Monte SS). I don't think it will be to big of a deal with the Solstice as long as GM shows off the boosted car at the autoshow circuit ahead of time so people know it is coming out. N/A Solstice performance seems respectable. The car I have a bigger problem with is the G6 GTP that won't be out until next summer and then the AWD GXP G6 will probably be another year later. The problem with the performance G6's is that the competition will have been out with similarly performing products for 3 years+
Old Jul 29, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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Re: Solstice turbo/sc car at launch ?

I think it hurts the Solstice to not release the hi-po version. This is a car that has a great platform and really needs the power. My wife loved the car at the Auto show but doesnt want to take a step down from her current car (2003 Neon SRT-4) So, if the Solstice doesnt have a tubo or S/C version 18 months. We will go to a car that does.
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