So you missed the 2005 GTO press release info meant for August? Get in here.(2 parts)
guionM is irresponsible, short-sighted, and an "eager beaver"? Interesting comment. You'll excuse me if I have a somewhat different opinion of him. My perception is that he tries to share every shred of information with us that he can, and that he is a straight-shooter....not even sort of resembling a GM apologist.

And as usual, my words are being taken out of context and abused. What exactly is your point, alluding that I was referring to just the one member you mentioned? Maybe you have also noticed this post in the thread since you posted...
....and as was stated before; this was NOT the first place it was posted. I saw this on two other boards before it appeared over here.
...So you've concluded I called guionM an 'eager beaver' (oh NO!
). Why not let the man speak for himself, should he choose to? Or are you diversifying in your menu of apology services? And BTW I do not consider it all bad for someone to be eager in this way, since obviously he is excited about the info. More than I can say for some...
I think having the scoops as an option makes the most sense. It allows Pontiac to retain the more "sophisticated" and sleek look while offering the scoops for the purists and for those who want it to be more aggressive. I think it's a win-win for Pontiac and GM.
I think having the scoops as an option makes the most sense. It allows Pontiac to retain the more "sophisticated" and sleek look while offering the scoops for the purists and for those who want it to be more aggressive. I think it's a win-win for Pontiac and GM.
Originally posted by BigDarknFast
Well since you are the spokesperson for apparently more than one member on this board, perhaps I should start pre-coordinating my posts with you first
Well since you are the spokesperson for apparently more than one member on this board, perhaps I should start pre-coordinating my posts with you first
And as usual, my words are being taken out of context and abused.
What exactly is your point, alluding that I was referring to just the one member you mentioned?
Maybe you have also noticed this post in the thread since you posted...
My POINT was there are PEOPLE (not one person, so I stated it in the plural... Vern)
doing this and frankly it bugs me to see unreleased info being repeated in reckless and misleading ways.
The more it's repeated, the more credence gets lent, such as the absurd notion that a 400 HP car is going to come equipped with 225 tires
...So you've concluded I called guionM an 'eager beaver' (oh NO!
).
).
Why not let the man speak for himself, should he choose to?
Or are you diversifying in your menu of apology services?
And BTW I do not consider it all bad for someone to be eager in this way, since obviously he is excited about the info.
More than I can say for some...
BTW...I don't care for the scoops.
IZ28 has a good point - so I'll refrain from the personal debate with the character above (it was starting to be difficult to understand anyway). If it saves one 'page down' key on one member's computer, it will be worth it...
Originally posted by uluz28
Bob...please spare us from quoting every word in every sentence. I understand that you really want to prove your point, but it gets a bit old seeing it over and over.
Bob...please spare us from quoting every word in every sentence. I understand that you really want to prove your point, but it gets a bit old seeing it over and over.
Originally posted by IZ28
Also, can we not have this personal directed arguing and nonsense in all these posts? Arguing with each other just to do it without any truely good reason or purpose.
Also, can we not have this personal directed arguing and nonsense in all these posts? Arguing with each other just to do it without any truely good reason or purpose.
It has been requested in the past, and you are correct. In the interest of this Forum, I shall try and bite my tongue (finger?) a bit more often - especially where it concerns the GM (or Ford) apologists.
Touche'.
Originally posted by Darth Xed
Interesting that the hood with scoops is "available"... sounds like it will be an option.
That is a little surprising, since they seemed to try to keep the options to basically none, with only the transmission choice being optional for 2004.
Interesting that the hood with scoops is "available"... sounds like it will be an option.
That is a little surprising, since they seemed to try to keep the options to basically none, with only the transmission choice being optional for 2004.
Originally posted by NikiVee
The hood scoops will be standard, not an option as hinted. I think the wording is poor. All pre-production 05 coming down the line right now at Holden have the hood scoops.
The hood scoops will be standard, not an option as hinted. I think the wording is poor. All pre-production 05 coming down the line right now at Holden have the hood scoops.
Originally posted by AdioSS
I don't believe you. A picture is needed for proof
I don't believe you. A picture is needed for proof
I've read a couple of he's posts regarding scoops on the GTO
Originally posted by NikiVee
The hood scoops will be standard, not an option as hinted. I think the wording is poor. All pre-production 05 coming down the line right now at Holden have the hood scoops.
The hood scoops will be standard, not an option as hinted. I think the wording is poor. All pre-production 05 coming down the line right now at Holden have the hood scoops.
Thanks for the update.
That certainly seems to follow the 'simplicity of build' that GM seems to be focusing on with GTO.
Pick you colors, pick your tranny, and you are done.


