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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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OK, KBB says dealer retail for my '00 x-tra cab is $9,875. So, they'll give me $15K toward a new or certified Toy? That would be a new(ish) Corolla.

Hell, I only paid $9200 for it 5 years ago.

Sumpin' doesn't sound right to me.

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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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Does your car suffer from a known and widespread case of frame rot?

No it suffers from the belt squealing upon acceleration and idling before the engine "warms up" and I've had it in 8+ times.
Old Mar 17, 2008 | 06:31 PM
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Nissan needs to be doing this too, Pathfinders and their earlier pickups are terrible for this. The weld quality of the frames is absouloutely rediculous. Every weld on the frames is that of a booger weld. I have seen several Nissan pickups with paper thin frames, and giant holes where welds rotted through. Looks like the frames were never even properly rust treated.
Old Mar 17, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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Yea, it would be nice if Nissan followed suit. My Pathfinder is pretty rusty.
Old Mar 17, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RRRR
OK, KBB says dealer retail for my '00 x-tra cab is $9,875. So, they'll give me $15K toward a new or certified Toy? That would be a new(ish) Corolla.

Hell, I only paid $92 for it 5 years ago.

Sumpin' doesn't sound right to me.
If you have frame rot... then yes, it is correct. Here is a good discussion on this going on at the ttora website

http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95993

Here are some links to the campaign info:

http://www.showstop.org/images/truck...munication.pdf

http://www.showstop.org/images/truck...nty-policy.pdf

http://www.showstop.org/images/truck...inspection.pdf

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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 08:04 PM
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Just back from a look see in the driveway. I found a spot on the driver's side where I can press my finger through.

It's go time.
Old Mar 17, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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I worked at a toyota dealer for a while, and was impressed at the integrity that this company has. The 3.0 V6 head gasket issue is what came to mind. I was there when 150k+ mile 4 runners were getting warrantied repairs. Good luck getting GM to do that for you. This commitment to their customers is why Toyota still manages to retain their reputation for superior reliability even though (at least in my opinion) the reliability of their vehicles after the mid/late 90s is nowhere near what it was prior to that.
The local Toyota dealer doesn't seem to have the integrity you speak of. A friend of mine has a 07 Tacoma that has been in the shop 11 times for the same problem ~ loud rattle noise when coasting above 55 mph. So far they have said "its normal", installed sound deadening to cover the noise, replaced rear end gears, replaced entire rear differential, replaced drive shaft, replaced throwout bearing, replaced the entire transmission and clutch. They screwed up the replacement transmission so bad he had to be towed back to the dealer because it stopped shifting gears 1/2 mile down the road.

he has been to 2 arbitrations and both times was told they would buy the truck back but keep backing out. Today he had to take the truck and get "An independent inspection" By independent, they mean go to a different Toyota dealer.

Toyota is now going to be in court and sued for $50,000 to cover the cost of truck, lawyer, missed work to get the truck to the dealer, cost of driving 40miles each way to the dealer, inconvenience and stress.

Oh, get this. Toyota tried to force him to sign papers saying he would never go to the press about it. Toyota is slipping big time and is trying to cover it up.
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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Update

When I called my service guy this a.m., he tried to tell me that the campaign hadn't started yet. So, I printed off the PDFs and dropped them off to him, suggesting that he "study up" before I brought the '00 to him at 3.

This time, they happily greeted me and told me they would get right to it. 30 minutes later, with grave faces, they informed me that they had an '08 RAV AWD waiting for me. They found "perforation" which is what I found last night laying on the driveway, shining a flashlight. The service guy was really surprised, because he knows how **** I am about my truck. Still, I could tell they were taking no chances, calling it a "major safety issue."

So, I am awaiting the independent inspector that the factory sends out prior to settling up.

Both my kids, who learned to drive on the Taco, are majorly bummed at its apparent demise. I don't have the heart to tell them it will likely get crushed. I told them it would get "parted out" like organ donation.

I do wonder how Toyota is going to handle the buy back vehicles. Since not all of the 800 thousand (their estimate) of the Tacos will have rusty frames, wouldn't they do well to contact with a firm to part out the buy backs and resell the parts? Crushing them seems like such a drastic action.

Anyway, now I have to decide what to buy next. I'll keep you posted.
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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This commitment to their customers is why Toyota still manages to retain their reputation for superior reliability
And what of the massive engine sludge issue that they didn't want to resolve?

I'll give you GM. But Toyota isn't perfect in this regard either. There aren't any manufacturers who do the right thing by their customers 100% of the time.
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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Oh, get this. Toyota tried to force him to sign papers saying he would never go to the press about it. Toyota is slipping big time and is trying to cover it up.
Wow, I guess if you can't build a good car, then extort your customers to keep their mouth shut to keep the "reputation" alive.
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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Wow, I guess if you can't build a good car, then extort your customers to keep their mouth shut to keep the "reputation" alive.
Sounds like Microsoft with the 360.
Old Apr 12, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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I know this thread is a little old, and I started a similar one in the Auto News section, but I gotta tell ya...this is awesome for me personally The Chrysler dealership I run is in a small town of about 20,000 people, and word is spreading like wildfire around here, as the local Toyota dealer has about 30 Tacomas sitting on their property already that have been bought back, with several more waiting to be inspected. A lot of these customers are mad as hell, and aren't buying another Toyota...

Hence why this is awesome for me This isn't a scam...its legit. But while Toyota blames salt in the blog, salt isn't the issue...these frames are rusting from the inside out. There should be a full-blown recall on this...
Old Apr 12, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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Don't they give a few thousand dollars extra in addition to the buy-back if you buy another Toyota?

It'd be hard for me to turn that down. Combine the massive buy back amount with the extra rebate and a basic new Toyota truck with high future resale value and you have the ultimate financial win. Ignoring that rebate and going to buy, say, a Dodge, with not so great future resale value, isn't nearly as great of a deal financially speaking. Let's also not forget that while Dodge trucks haven't ever (to my knowledge) had questionable frame designs... their transmissions, motors, and electronics have not really been anything to brag about in the past.

I understand being mad about the crappy frame design but I'd actually be pretty happy about Toyota being so generous in the buy-back and probably forgive them, especially considering they'd be giving me nearly enough money on trade in and rebates to flat out trade in for a brand new truck.
Old Apr 12, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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I used to have a 98 Tacoma, best vehicle I ever owned
Old Apr 12, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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I have a $14985 check that Toyota gave me on Wednesday for a 2000 2wd Tacoma xtra cab. Contrary to Mr. E's assertion, I'm very pleased with Toyota's response to this matter. I'll be buying another vehicle (seriously considering another Toyota) and it sure won't be a Chrysler. If they had even 10 percent of Toyota's business sense (and customer service) they wouldn't be in the fix they are today. Chrysler has had numerous "opportunities" over the years to demonstrate their committment to their customers and FAILED!

Gloat all you want, but I'll bet that an analysis of the affected owners will show an overwhelming number of repeat Toyota customers. And you can bet that Toyota will be counting carefully.

PS: The loyality certificate is for $1000 on a Toyota truck and $500 on a new Toyota car or a certified used Toyota (Scion not included).



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