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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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So GM is still number 1 right?

I thought they were behind Toyota in sales. The WSJ has these charts: http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/pag...autosales.html

Am I reading it correctly?
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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GM is behind Toyota in global sales, the first time they've given up the lead in something like 70 years. That's what's been making the news. In the US GM is clearly in the lead and isn't likely to lose that position in the foreseeable future, although it's been looking a lot less certain in recent months.
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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Yea I guess that makes sense. That must mean that Toyota's overseas sales must be up because they are down here too.
Old Aug 17, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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GM beat Toyota by about 3,000 units last year to retain the title as the world's biggest automaker. Through the first half of this year, Toyota leads by 278,000 units globally.
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...er-says-68164/
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by R377
GM is behind Toyota in global sales, the first time they've given up the lead in something like 70 years. That's what's been making the news. In the US GM is clearly in the lead and isn't likely to lose that position in the foreseeable future, although it's been looking a lot less certain in recent months.
unfortunately, we are not even allowed to sell in markets like japan. so the numbers are skewed
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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unfortunately, we are not even allowed to sell in markets like japan. so the numbers are skewed
Japan's market is so small it isn't worth trying to bust into, not with GM having such a foothold in China at the moment. Money is better spent increasing revenue in this developing market of 1.3 Billion people than trying to bust open the mature market of Japan and its much smaller population.
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
Japan's market is so small it isn't worth trying to bust into, not with GM having such a foothold in China at the moment.
I wouldn't say it's small ... at ~4.5 million units, it's the third largest market in the world (behind the US and China). But I agree that it's effectively closed to foreign automakers, if not by outright law, then certainly by culture and other non-tariff barriers.
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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There was a segment on one of the morning news programs yesterday (CBS Sunday Morning?) about China, globalization, etc. At one point, the woman doing the piece talked about the Big Three not seeing what was coming from Japan when they made their inroads (as related to how Chinese manufacturers are starting to import their own brand names here and even open plants...)

Anyway, she stated flat out that it is now Toyota, not GM, who is the number one selling car company in the U.S.

I wanted to kick my TV. I'm so sick of journalists messing this stuff up.

They do have a small but real lead in global sales, yes. But they are not number one in the U.S.

Old Aug 18, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 96_Camaro_B4C
There was a segment on one of the morning news programs yesterday (CBS Sunday Morning?) about China, globalization, etc. At one point, the woman doing the piece talked about the Big Three not seeing what was coming from Japan when they made their inroads (as related to how Chinese manufacturers are starting to import their own brand names here and even open plants...)

Anyway, she stated flat out that it is now Toyota, not GM, who is the number one selling car company in the U.S.

I wanted to kick my TV. I'm so sick of journalists messing this stuff up.

They do have a small but real lead in global sales, yes. But they are not number one in the U.S.

and people eat that stuff up..
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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why do americans buy japanese cars when a japanese person has enough pride to only buy a japanese car.

So funny to see all of these "god bless america" bumper stickers stuck on an import car.
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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why do americans buy japanese cars when a japanese person has enough pride to only buy a japanese car.
Maybe because chevrolet had nothing to offer over the Japanese car...


Ever think of that?
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 09:35 PM
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Maybe because chevrolet had nothing to offer over the Japanese car...


Ever think of that?
GO USA!

American pride baby!
















Old Aug 18, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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GO USA!

American pride baby!
Dont worry... There are plenty of American cars sitting on lots for you...
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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whats that sucking sound?
oh yea its the US economy.

If we keep it up we won't have to worry about US cars, cause we won't even build them anymore.
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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whats that sucking sound?
oh yea its the US economy.

If we keep it up we won't have to worry about US cars, cause we won't even build them anymore.
Buying Japanese cars does not make our economy suffer... Blame your government for wrecking the value of the dollar..



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