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I know its been posted before, but this says that the skyline ran a 7:15 around the ring. has anyone verified this?

I am HIGHLY skeptical that it ran this time. it just doesnt add up. 3500+ lbs & 480 hp with street tires vs a 1400 lb 363 hp car with racing slicks. something is not right.

 

Um, no. Unless the laws of physics have been violated, or the final two digits transposed.

 

First of all guys, despite what the article calls it, there is no "Skyline" GT-R any more; it's just the GT-R.

Second, to the best of my knowledge, Nissan hasn't released any specific data about weights, HP, Tq, etc so claims about those numbers are at best no more than guesses (they may be reasonable guesses but they are still just guesses).

Third, there is much more to truly FAST driving, especially around a track like the Ring, than just HP/Tq/Weight...it's not at all impossible that a car with a hp/weight that is unfavorable to the Z06, even as good as the Z06 is, might still outperform the Z06 at a track.

Fourth, it may or may not have really done a 7:15 lap but while I expect that the GT-R will do well at the Ring (whatever official time it actually sets), I think it's premature to get excited about lap times until there are some official testing/verified times available (whch does not seem to be the case here yet).

 

GT-R's 7:15 vs the Z06's 7:43, lol.

 

Fortunately, when the real testing is done and the results are verified, it won't be a matter of opinion...whatever that time is will be what it is.

 

No kidding. Also faster than the 610 hp, GT1 car for the road, Porsche Carrera GT, or the 550+ hp Ford GT, or a slew of other hi-po exotics.

That time is absolutely ridiculous. If they wanted to make a time up, they should have said something at least believable but impressive. This is so far off the mark that it has to be made up. If they had said "7:41" or something, so that it just beat the Vette and it could come down to the better driver, I might pause and think, "damn, that GT-R must be something." But this time is just not realistic, so it just makes me laugh.

Either that, or somehow Nissan has kept it a big secret that they are developing a 700 hp AWD supercar, not a 400-500 hp hi-po GT. That info would have leaked by now if that were the case.

 

Ouch that just hurts to think about...Nissan set themselves up for failure now. That typo is going to crush them. There is no way in hell its going to touch that number. I can't believe people actually believe it. That right there is why you don't set the bar too high...(waiting for the bomb to drop)

 

Why are you assuming that this error, assuming it is (and I'm not implying it isn't), is Nissan's fault? How does it set them up for failure if some rag got something wrong - it's not like that doesn't happen on a regular basis.

If people want to base opinions or draw conclusions on data that is little more than speculation combined with some (claimed) observation then what can anyone do about it? Ignorance and stupidity are not illegal (which really is a shame I think).

 

Back in the day either an R33 or R34 went out to the ring and ran the fastest time for a production car that was at that time fairly ridiculous. However, it turned out that it had a bunch of extra boost and an experimental calibration for the AWD system.

 

I understand what you mean Robert, but c'mon a 7:15? You and I both know there is no way in hell that car is running under a 7:40. I agree with everyone that either the seconds are transposed or it is just complete BS.

 

I'm not and haven't said the quoted time is accurate; pretty much the opposite actually but I do expect the car to do well.

All I am saying is that I don't see any reason for people to waste a lot of effort worrying about a lap time at this point...Nissan and the Ring will likely come out with some documented times pretty soon and all the magazines will be doing their own testing as well; then everyone can fight about it if they want to do so.

 

Agreed

 

Anyone want to bet a dollar on 7:51?

 

G37 coupe is 3700 pounds. GTR is the same car with AWD and Turbos

 

Its not Nissans fault, but who do you think is going to take the biggest hit for it? There you have it over hyped car that won't live up to its expectations. Its going to suck for them not me.
For instance...if someone posted up and speculated that they were coming out with a performance car that had 500hp and cost only 30k people would go nuts. Then when the said car came out and had only 450hp and cost 50k people would feel like they got cheated some how. Just saying its going to cause a few problems.