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Old May 16, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by redzed
Actually, I've got better things to do.

If you don't believe me, pick up the current issue of CR.
You've got better things to do?!?

Well, you have time enough to post it... you'd think you'd have time enough to back it up.
Old May 16, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by Darth Xed
You've got better things to do?!?

Well, you have time enough to post it... you'd think you'd have time enough to back it up.
If you don't believe me, go to a book store or public library. The Cadillac CTS has Consumer Reports worst reliability rating.
Old May 16, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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CR sends out more than 4 Million surveys for cars and only gets something like 400,000 back. In order for a survey sample to be "scientific" you want OVER a 90% return. All of CR's survey based info for anything is pretty much useless.
Old May 17, 2004 | 01:17 PM
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CR sends out more than 4 Million surveys for cars and only gets something like 400,000 back. In order for a survey sample to be "scientific" you want OVER a 90% return. All of CR's survey based info for anything is pretty much useless.
There's a more inherent flaw. Peoples attitudes and biases come out in any survey. Based upon the Joe blow public, there's definitely a double standard regarding US and foreign cars that we've discussed many times. That will skew any survey, irregardless of how well the questions are constructed to avoid bias (which CR will never point out since this invalidates all of their "scientifically" colected data). Science and opinion are two very different items. Humans are very fallible, just look at how well eyewitnesses identify a perpetrator. Around 60-70% of the time they are correct, yet that holds the greatest sway with a jury. DNA is nearly infallible, yet how many years did it take for that to sink into people's heads.

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Old May 18, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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Consumer Reports is completely biased towards import cars.

On another note, the new 3.6 V6 CTS got first place in Road & Tracks massive sport sedan comparision in this months issue. I don't have the issue in front of me, I just flipped through it at the store but the CTS beat out BMW, MB, plus a bunch other imports and the new Chrysler 300.

One of there highlighted quotes from the article was something like "This car (CTS) is what a BMW should drive like"
Old May 19, 2004 | 09:05 AM
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That Road and Track article was a good one...
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