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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 12:31 PM
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Shame on GM

More ponticrap headed to a dealer near you. It seems that the Vibe is getting a s/c powerplant. A toyota based 1.8L. I like the idea of US car companys duking it out with the imports on 4cyl terms. But please use a GM sourced ecotec. Its an AWD car/ truck thing that comes in under 3000 lbs. A 220hp s/c ectotec to go head on with the SRT-4 and wrx is what they need.
Old Jun 12, 2003 | 12:36 PM
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Well, the Vibe is built side-by-side with it's cousin, the Toytoa Matrix... so I don't think it's too unnatural for this to happen...

It sounds like an upgrade to me...

The biggest shortfall of the Vibe is that the AWD version is seriously slow... 11.5 0-60 times w/ 123hp. Even the base Vibe has 130hp, and is a bit faster. The Vibe GT has 180hp.
Old Jun 12, 2003 | 12:54 PM
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Yep...it's unacceptable that there's no 2003 Camaro!

Not forgivable!

Old Jun 12, 2003 | 01:04 PM
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Nothing wrong with the Vibe (if you are into those types of vehicles).

It's pretty convienent the Vibe is getting a supercharger after the PT Cruiser gets a turbo. After all, those 2 are competitors in the same market (right down to size).
Old Jun 12, 2003 | 01:34 PM
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The Vibe is getting a supercharger because Toyota is production constrained on the 180 horse engine that's used in the Celica GT-S, Vibe GT, and Matrix XRS. I don't think the platform is engineered for the Ecotec. It's Toyota to the bone. Pontiac just had input on styling.
Old Jun 12, 2003 | 03:46 PM
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i wouldnt mind seeing a 220hp supercharged ecotec in the vide
Old Jun 12, 2003 | 03:51 PM
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So what is the S/C'd 1.8 Toyota motor rated at, anyway?
Old Jun 12, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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So what is the S/C'd 1.8 Toyota motor rated at, anyway?
180HP last I heard, I don't know what tq is.

Evil Turbo SS- I don't see how putting a s/c on this car is a bad thing, I agree that the 220HP s/c ecotech would be better.
Old Jun 12, 2003 | 04:08 PM
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The only info I've seen on a blown Vibe is the dealer installed blower kit...nothing is factory done. Am I missing something here?
Old Jun 12, 2003 | 04:32 PM
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Yeah, I heard about this a few months ago and thought it was very strange, not because it is a Toyota motor but because the SC 1.8 is the base 1.8 and only equals the horsepower of the better NA 1.8. Why not just leave in the 180 hp NA 1.8? I guess for that crowd, it is better to say that you have a SC.
Old Jun 12, 2003 | 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by SNEAKY NEIL
Yeah, I heard about this a few months ago and thought it was very strange, not because it is a Toyota motor but because the SC 1.8 is the base 1.8 and only equals the horsepower of the better NA 1.8. Why not just leave in the 180 hp NA 1.8? I guess for that crowd, it is better to say that you have a SC.
The NA HO 1.8 is seriously weak on low end torque. The blower should remedy that. Remember, it's the area under the torque/HP curves that's important, not the peak values.
Old Jun 12, 2003 | 04:55 PM
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It's Toyota to the bone. Pontiac just had input on styling.
Which is a good thing. I think the Vibe looks MUCH better than the Matrix. And the Vibe's interior is cool looking.
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