ImportedRoomate

Live pics from unveiling in Japan:

ImportedRoomate

Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw6WnrqMDTw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJwwUQU_GZw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPeHaDb36PM

5thgen69camaro

That looks good.


Is it just me or does the front look a little like?

King Moose SS

This thing is really starting to remind me of Miata's of the 1990's. They won't be fun drag racers, but I'm fairly certain this car will be blast to toss around.

bossco

Heh, the FT-86 vs. pony car interwebz battle ought to be pretty fun to watch. Light weight cars with deft handling vs. fairly heavy cars with gobs of power. I look forward to the Lightning Lap both will be in.

Speaking of which that'll be awesome to see the ZL-1 and 2013 GT500 going at it.

96_Camaro_B4C

The Miata is still around, and it still weighs less than this car, even with the optional folding hardtop. It gives up some horsepower (and two seats) to this new Subie / Scion though.

This car reminds me more of a 7/8ths scale Mazda RX-8, minus the rear suicide doors.

I'm also rather surprised that the Scion and Subaru will share the same sheetmetal and interiors. Kinda like the Geo Prism and Toyota Corolla from back in the day. Or Vibe / Matrix, but at least they had unique sheetmetal.

SRFCTY

They want to price it around $26,000. Seems a lot, as they're marketing it to recent college grads.

ImportedRoomate

From their GT86 press release:
Sounds more like they are targeting the driving enthusiast. It will be competing with the Miata which starts at $23k. I've seen reports of it starting at around $20k.

We'll see what marketing direction they take in the US.

bossco

Hmmm... thats about 3k more than either a base Mustang or Camaro. If this car sets the bar for cheap vehicle dynamics and handling then I see a marketing opertunity for Ford and GM. Granted, it'll be hard to make that extra mass disappear but BMW somehow manages to do it with a 3700 lbs M3.

Even with nearly 1000 extra pounds the F5 still has a power advantage.

VladimirSteel

that tail end is FANTASTIC

ImportedRoomate

Official Subaru pics. Nothing new. Subaru has confirmed that it comes in under 2700lbs at 2689lbs.

Eric77TA

I like these, and I'm very curious to see how they track test. I bet they'll do well in the twisties.

But I can't help but think that if GM were releasing these cars right now, as say a Chevy and a Buick they would get absolutely pilloried for daring to bring the exact same car to market under two different badges.

These are as much, or maybe even more, alike than the Celebrity and a Century were in the darkest days of GMs badge engineering.

5thgen69camaro

This is not like Chevy and Buick both part of the same company . Toyota and Subaru are two entirely different companies that worked together.

It is more like when Ford and Chevy worked together to produce the same 6 speed transmissions or Pontiac and Toyota both did the same cross over, although reskinned. Or Toyota Corola and the Geo counter part.

ImportedRoomate

...and here's what we get. Scion FR-S.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/scion-fr-s.html







Correction, BRZ still to debut at NAIAS.

96_Camaro_B4C

So Subaru does all the work, then they don't even get to sell it in the U.S.? I guess they figure there won't be enough interest?