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REPORT: Next-Gen Dodge Viper could get Ferrari-derived V10

Old Aug 10, 2009 | 01:20 PM
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REPORT: Next-Gen Dodge Viper could get Ferrari-derived V10

NICEEEE!

Way back in 1987, Chrysler bought up a troubled Lamborghini, and within two years put it to work developing a V10 engine program that would eventually give birth to both the Dodge Viper and the Lamborghini Gallardo – two of the first ten-cylinder engines on the modern market. Two decades later, the tables have turned: instead of buying up struggling Italian automakers, it's Chrysler that's troubled and the Italians are coming to the rescue. And now reports suggest that the replacement for the Viper's V10 could be derived from Ferrari's next-generation engine program.

Chrysler's original plan was to sell of the Viper business, but since no serious offers came through, Fiat CEO Sergio Marchionne is reportedly keen on taking advantage of the sportscar's standing as the company's halo vehicle. But rather than have Chrysler shoulder the entire burden of developing the next-generation Viper, the engine program could be derived from the same modular powerplant that will propel upcoming Ferraris and Maseratis.

Ferrari has essentially had four engine designs in its history: the Colombo design was in use from the company's beginnings all the way through the '90s. The Lampredi engine was used on a handful of vehicles in the 50's before being phased out. The Dino engine spawned V6, V8 and V12 versions and was in use until just a few years ago, while the current Ferrari/Maserati engine powers everything in the both companies' current ranges as well as the Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione. Its 90-degree replacement will likewise offer variable configurations: a flat-plane crank V8 for Ferrari, a cross-plane crank for Maserati and a pushrod V10 for the Viper.

[Source: Car and Driver]
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/08/10/r...i-derived-v10/
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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They better learn how to make it produce low end torque. Viper owners don't want a high revving screaming euro style V10. They want a torque monster.
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sixer-Bird
They better learn how to make it produce low end torque. Viper owners don't want a high revving screaming euro style V10. They want a torque monster.
I'm not a Viper owner but damn...If I had a choice between Chrysler engine or Ferrari? I know what I'd want.

Not to mention the SOUND!

The current V-10 sound

It does say this...

Its 90-degree replacement will likewise offer variable configurations: a flat-plane crank V8 for Ferrari, a cross-plane crank for Maserati and a pushrod V10 for the Viper.

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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 95redLT1
Not to mention the SOUND!
It will not have the Ferrari "ripping canvas" sound. Exactly what sound you get though is anyone's guess.

a flat-plane crank V8 for Ferrari, a cross-plane crank for Maserati and a pushrod V10 for the Viper.
I'm just glad the Italian boys think there's something worthwhile in keeping Viper around.
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 95redLT1
I'm not a Viper owner but damn...If I had a choice between Chrysler engine or Ferrari? I know what I'd want.

Not to mention the SOUND!

The current V-10 sound
If it has 600hp and 400lbs/ft of torque, forget it. There is a reason that Viper owners buy them and not Ferraris. The Viper isn't some refined white-glove wearing sports car. As guionM pointed out in one of the other threads, Viper is a raw, unrefined machine. My concern is that using a Italian-sourced architeture for the engine could set a precedent that would lead to the Viper drifting from it's roots. Maybe I'm wrong, but an Alfa 8C w/ a new American skin doesn't seem right for Viper.
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 02:20 PM
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IMO the reason to buy a Viper rather than Ferrari is they can't afford a Ferrari...not just cost of the car but maintenance ect..

As I edited my last post it states it would be a purshrod motor...different than that put in the Ferrari...so it make keep it closer to its roots...I'm sure they want to keep current owners happy since they tend to be repeat buyers.

But think of the marketing epsecially against the Corvette....being able to say it has a Ferrari Motor! Viper owners heads will explode!
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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I think Maserati is the "poor man's Ferrari", if such a thing really exists. I wonder if it would be cheaper to make a V10 based off of the Hemi.
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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Having a Ferrari V10 is a big selling point, even if it pisses off a few traditionalists. It isn't like they sell 30,000 units a year like the Corvette.
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Was thinking of swaying potential higher end Corvette buyers such as Z06. Probably not much since people are pretty loyal to their cars especially Vettes and Vipers....more so 1st time buyers...Nevertheless like I said Ferrari engine is cool.
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Originally Posted by Sixer-Bird
I wonder if it would be cheaper to make a V10 based off of the Hemi.
or....

V8 Hemi + Viper Chassis = Chrysler Firepower

And after getting some up close and personal time with the concept, it's a really good looking car...
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Sixer-Bird
I wonder if it would be cheaper to make a V10 based off of the Hemi.
I would absolutely love to see this.
Old Aug 10, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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How about a cheaper 6.4L Hemi Viper to help spread out the platform costs.
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