Early on they were thought to only be putting that in a special edition like another Mach 1 or Boss.

 

Well, it's pretty obvious that if the V6 is getting 275+ HP, some new engine with more than 315 ought to be going in the GT. Whether it is indeed the 400hp 5.0 or whether that is reserved for some special model has yet to be seen, but all indications point to it being the base GT engine.

 

What happened to the rumor of the GT getting the SHO 365HP twin turbo V6?

V8's are being pushed out to the 400HP part of the market. Great to be getting so much power, but unfortunately it pushes V8's out of the mainstream (300-400HP). 6th gen will probably have a 350HP N/A V6

 

I've got nothing worthwhile to add... other than it will be awesome when the new Ford V8 arrives! It's quite a promising motor and in the relatively lightweight Mustang would be an awesome package.

Will GM have a new (LSX) weapon up their sleeve or has V8 development been temporarily halted?

PS There were rumors some time back that GM were well advanced on DI versions of the LSX (and even DOHC) but the recent money troubles have set those programs back. On the other hand, it would be good to know if 'efficiency enhancements' are still being planned for the Gen V motor.

 

An insider named theoldwizard at Blue Oval News says Ford will not put direct injection on normally aspirated engines.

 

well hopefully the camaro will come out with a track (weight reduction) package that will make it more competitive against the lighter mustang

 

That is to bad for Ford. Probably won't be more than 280HP and 26-28mpg. Performance should be about the same as the Camaro but on paper the numbers don't look as good.


Camaro SS already gets better fuel economy and is faster by a good amount. They don't really need a "track package". Although it the S/C 6.2L LSA Z28 is truly canceled then a Z51 style Z28 would be cool.

 

IIRC that was squashed early on and Ford said no ecoboost for the Mustang (then again in the time that GM takes to validate a puncuation change in an intercompany memo, Ford can just as easily decide to put the ecoboost in the Mustang).

Theres also an interview with Bill Ford saying they are going to have a diverse line-up from hybrids to a 400hp Mustang (wether he indeed refering to the 5.0 or a FI'd 3 valve is speculation at this point).

I'm surprised nobody is mentioning that in MY11 the GT500 is supposed to go all aluminum with the engine (I'm guessing a variant of the Ford GT(40) block if they dont do an entirely new engine), and I can't remeber the exact weight difference between the NVH CI 5.4 and the AL 5.4, but IIRC its easily 100 pounds off the nose of the car.

I hope Ford can keep pricing in check with the V6 and GT, the V6 will be locally sourced rather than imported like the current 4.0 and who knows with the 5.0, the MY11 GT500 I suspect will easily surpass the 50k mark since the base price for the '10 GT500 is 46k which makes the 07-09 GT500s a real bargin in comparison if somebody didn't pay the crazy ADMs (especially if you can find a low mileage or left over 09 GT500, a forum member on another site scored a GT500 with 90 miles on the ODO for 35k)

 

'11 GT500 motor is new...with a high potential for badassness.

 

Sweet! a 5.0 variant or something really crazy like a DOHC AL 6.2? Speaking of which, Ford has said the 6.2 going into the Raptor is going to be 500hp N/A (which certainly bodes well for the Coyote)

 

Bottom line is the Camaro is going to need a "track pack" next year to stay ahead. Gearing should do the job without retuning the engine. Brakes are already pretty beefy, but there is room for improvement. It would be cool if a "track pack" Camaro came with exhaust like the Corvette's optional performance exhaust that opens up when you punch it.

 

Do not be surprised to see a SE varient, with the 3.5L Ecoboost engine.

Remember that the Ecoboost engine is detuned, in the FWD applications (the platform, AWD system, and transmission cannot take the full torque). Rumor has some very "nasty" mules are running around, with over 425hp.

On the Camaro end, something has to be done to eliminate the handling deficiencies, in comparison to the "track pack" Mustang. Ford pulled a fast one on GM, and they need to respond. Pretty much ever test has praised the Mustangs handling, and feel. Hopefully that will be a nudge for GM to "fix" the problem.

Oh, rumor is also, that the 3.7L in the Mustang, will see significant upgrades, over those in FWD platforms.

 

It still doesnt change the fact that the track pack still consists of no options that are any better than what comes on the SS. Track pack has better brakes than come on the standard V6, SS gets Brembos, etc. The SS shouldnt need a track pack because its already got everything Ford upgrades on the GT. steeper gear ratio, bigger tires, and brakes are standard SS equipment. Whattya want on a Camaro track pack to level the field? 6 Piston ZR1 Brakes and Hoosier Road Race Slicks? Bottom line is that the Camaro will be outperformed next year both V6 AND V8 and thankfully, they dont have CEO-bama looking over our shoulder telling us what they can and can't build

 

The assumption is that that the Mustang lineup will increase HP but not increase weight?

 

That is not a fact.

The GT Track Pack has a better gear ratio (3.73 vs 3.45) and wider front tires (255 vs 245) than the SS.

As for what I want on the Camaro Track Pack, I started a thread on that subject a few weeks ago. Basically, I'm looking for steeper gears, better tires, and some suspension upgrades.