I dunno. Something just doesn't add up. Either the tuning is pulling back(non-shift torque management?), the drive-by-wire is throttling back, or whatever. But a 3100lb with 400+hp and torque curve wide as Nebraska should be running in the 116-119 mph range. There's something wrong.

When that first quarter mile test came out by Motortrend, every bowtie head was saying they can't drive. Well C&D backs it up with the identical time. They have decent drivers. Yeah they don't powershift or feather the clutch, but they are above average drivers.

Something is still locked up in that PCM. Cuz the dynos don't lie. The motor should have the C6 breathing up a Viper's tailpipe, but it's not even close. Not even to the old the 450hp GTS.



BTW did everyone just miss that the Z06 LS7 is being shown off in a GTO tomorrow in some park? Is that in Detroit? Is someone going to go see it?

 

I think Evan from GMHTP will get the C6 into the 11s.

 

Again, the Road and Track test was run on a freshly wet-down track. Read the article.

 

Quote from the R&T article:

"Although our test numbers show the Corvette convertible is only marginally faster than the 50th Anniversary C5 coupe we tested in 2002 (4.8 sec. vs. 4.9 sec. 0-60), it's not really an accurate representation of the two generations. The convertible, which weighs more, was tested under less than ideal conditions in nearly 90-degree heat and high humidity on a green track that had been recently soaked in a storm. In the quarter mile, the open car posted a 13.2-sec. run at 107.9 mph, again slightly better than the C5's 13.4 sec. at 107.5 mph."

 

Yeah I heard you the first time. I'm not commenting on the 13.2@107. I'm talking about the 12.7@112-113 that's been backed up twice by 2 independent sources. That is not much for a 400+hp 3100 lb car shaped like a missile. The Cobra and Z06 guys are laughing at the C6.

 

While the Z06 times in the magazines were consistently faster than that (though 114 mph was common too), I don't recall the big 3 (C&D, MT, R&T) car magazines beating a 12.7@113 in a stock Cobra. Besides, the Cobra was antiquated next to a C5. A C6 is in another league altogether.

 

Seriously...what did your beloved Cobra run with these rags?

 

Oh...here's one from R&T on the 2004 Cobra:

man...that's cookin

 

Try getting ALL the FACTS.

Here's the best run for an '03 Cobra by C&D.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=2

 

I agree, I just picked up the new R&T and it features 6 cut-away illustrations on the C6. There C6 articles are by far the most in depth of the magazines. Motor Tends road test of the C6 was flat out vague, Car & Driver was a little better but not by much. Recently Motor Trend tested the Cadillac STS and there wasn't even a photo of the back of the car.

I don't have a subcription to R&T but I am seriously considering canceling another magazine and getting R&T because I like there larger format, full page photos, more technical articles. But they do have a few drawbacks like the discussed performance #s they get, and also I don't care for half the magazine being dedicated to "Track" (racing)

 

Never said they beat the time. But it's a drivers race between a discontinued, fat car from Ford(12.9@111) and GM's all new world beater sports car(12.7@113) with the all new world beater 400hp LS2. If all I had to do was drop a $25 pulley in to waste the new C6, I'd be laughing too.

And the Z06 owners are smug knowing the C6 is still the second rate vette.

Yes the C5 and C6 are better cars than the Cobra.

 

Modding a car throws everything out the window...

 

I've noticed that too. I seem to recall that when the '93 LT1 F-bodies came out, R&T was only getting mid to high 14's out of them. But they did get them to go up to a 160mph top speed (est.)

 

Every race is a driver's race. I've never had much more than an academic interest in drag racing, particularly with street cars. 12.9 vs. 12.7 is a 2 car length asswhooping. Live by the magazine, die by the magazine.

Now what interest and expectation one may have from a car is fine, dandy, and valid on it's own. What you like and prefer is your own business, pure and simple.

All around performance wise, the 'vette hands the Mustang it's $ss. If this comes as some revelation, you've just landed from an isolated sector of he universe.

As a Z06 owner, I am neither relieved nor distressed by the C6. Having driven both the Z06 and the Z51 C6, I can tell you that it's close. The Z06 is still the stronger track car, no question. The LS2 is very fat in the torque curve under 4k RPM and the Z51 IS the one to have right now for a new owner.

The next gen Z06 is more than stout. Any such comparisons will not be close. Quote me on this if you like.

 

Another slow magazine time for the C6: Automobile Magazine tested 1/4 mile 13.2 @ 112 mph.