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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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What's wrong with suicide doors? Still gets most of the coupe looks, and then the functionality of the 4-door. I wouldn't even mind if they did that to the firebird.
Old Feb 28, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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GM does some crazy things....but I really think they are not this stupid. Nothing good can come of it...plain and simple.


I think they should run the current GTO in NASCAR......just a random thought..
Old Feb 28, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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I vote no for the 4 door GTO , imo , it would be more UN-accepted than the Monaro as a GTO , and the monaro was a modern version to a tee .

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Honestly......I don't think so.
I haven't met one guy with an old GTO, who didn't think that the new GTO was sent to earth by satan himself.

A pity, since it may be the best GTO ever made. On the other hand, there are people like me, who were considering a 6 speed GTO, but didn't buy, because it doesn't have 5 passenger seating, and has essentially no trunk.

Forget the classic GTO guys......they'll reject any new GTO just because it doesn't have a Pontiac 389/400/455 motor.

But a guy like me though.............

I'd buy.
Old Feb 28, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth Xed
I don't see much of a difference in circumstances....
I have a double standard.
Old Feb 28, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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Honestly......I don't think so.
I haven't met one guy with an old GTO, who didn't think that the new GTO was sent to earth by satan himself.

A pity, since it may be the best GTO ever made. On the other hand, there are people like me, who were considering a 6 speed GTO, but didn't buy, because it doesn't have 5 passenger seating, and has essentially no trunk.

Forget the classic GTO guys......they'll reject any new GTO just because it doesn't have a Pontiac 389/400/455 motor.

But a guy like me though.............

I'd buy.

I do not understand what you are saying. You're saying you will not buy a present GTO because it does not have the practicality you need, but you would be more inclined to buy a car in the class you need if it were inappropriately named GTO?

Dude, that makes no fawking sense. Why bastardize yet another classic car name in order to polarize the market in hopes of getting a few more sales for a model that is already capable of selling on it's own merit?

Charger anyone? Or am I misunderstanding you? If Im wrong please correct...
Old Feb 28, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by redzed
If the next generation GTO had decent packaging and modern lines, I'd quickly forget about the extra pair of doors. Pontiac's designs should be inspired by the chiseled functionality of the '60s. Think stacked headlight, think notchback rooflines, think 1964 to 1967.

It's time to put the '80 and '90s "heritage" of Pontiac to rest. There's nothing about the modern era that's worth saving.

R.I.P. Rest In Pieces.
Wow, i agree with redzed 100% here. Pontiac really needs to harken back to it's heritage from a styling standpoint IMO.

As for the 4-door performance sedan it shoudl get a new name entirely in my opinion. If it is going to use a classic pontiac name plate I think maybe Lemans would be a good choice (yes, i know it was a 2-door as well).
Old Feb 28, 2005 | 06:50 PM
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If it is going to use a classic pontiac name plate I think maybe Lemans would be a good choice (yes, i know it was a 2-door as well).
Pontiac Lemans, I don't know about that.
Old Feb 28, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Good Ph.D
I do not understand what you are saying. You're saying you will not buy a present GTO because it does not have the practicality you need, but you would be more inclined to buy a car in the class you need if it were inappropriately named GTO?

Dude, that makes no fawking sense. Why bastardize yet another classic car name in order to polarize the market in hopes of getting a few more sales for a model that is already capable of selling on it's own merit?

Charger anyone? Or am I misunderstanding you? If Im wrong please correct...

Nope. You've got it right.

I never remember a previous GTO ever being a 2+2, though. Too bad, the old GTO would have been a perfect fit for me. Can the fact that the new GTO is now a 2+2 and not the classic GTO formula of a 5 passenger intermediate with a big trunk, be defined as "bastardized"? And whom is the bastardizer? The new Goat?

BTW, Charger would require some cosmetic revisions and a 6 speed for me to consider.
Old Feb 28, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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Honestly......I don't think so.
I haven't met one guy with an old GTO, who didn't think that the new GTO was sent to earth by satan himself.

A pity, since it may be the best GTO ever made. On the other hand, there are people like me, who were considering a 6 speed GTO, but didn't buy, because it doesn't have 5 passenger seating, and has essentially no trunk.

Forget the classic GTO guys......they'll reject any new GTO just because it doesn't have a Pontiac 389/400/455 motor.

But a guy like me though.............

I'd buy.
I like how you paint with a broad brush. I also like how you slam old GTO owners, but you yourself won't buy it for some lame excuse like trunk and seating for five.

Check it out dude.

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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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Pontiac Lemans, I don't know about that.
Not what I had in mind. This is what I think of: http://www.mulvanemarauders.com/phot...patelemans.jpg
Old Feb 28, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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I like how you paint with a broad brush. I also like how you slam old GTO owners, but you yourself won't buy it for some lame excuse like trunk and seating for five.

Check it out dude.

www.musclecarsgalore.com
Hey is that you in that picture?

And just to clear the record.....I am ABSOLUTELY not slamming old GTO owners. I'm only going by my experiences. And my experiences are....everytime I talk to a guy in a GTO club...or someone who owns an old GTO......and say that I like the new GTO.....they'll spend 20 minutes ripping my head off.

And if a car purchase doesn't meet your needs....it's lame not to buy it anyway......because......why????
Old Feb 28, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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Just to touch on the comments of "losing the played out 80's styled twin grille and going back to Pontiac's 60's roots styling...."

Um, Pontiac's have had twin grill styling on most of their cars since the 60's

Also, the twin grille styling isn't referred to a "old or tired" when it comes to BMW's that use basically the same styling cue.

I will say that I think they need ot find some new ways of applying the twin grille styling trait, and that the application of it on the current cars is a bit too similar, but there's nothing worng with twin grille styling.
Old Feb 28, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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Dodge is apparently not taking too much flak from it's loyalists by giving them a Charger with 4 doors, GM probably thinks they can get away with the same thing with GTO.

Whatever they decide to do, GTO didn't sell well until it was marked down to the mid twenties...where Mustand GT and 300C (not the top shelf Hemi) roughly are. That should tell them that PRICE and VALUE sell cars, not reviving old nameplates to incite dealer gouging.

Who doesn't like to save money/Get a lot for their money?
Old Feb 28, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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Dodge is apparently not taking too much flak from it's loyalists by giving them a Charger with 4 doors...

What Rock have you been under?
Old Feb 28, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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What Rock have you been under?
My bad...it was mentioned in another thread about them not being as pissed about 4 door Charger as we were over GTO coming back in Monaro form. The fact their leadership had to go so far as to say this wasn't a Charger for old school enthusiaists proves otherwise though. Still, the whole "Hemi" thing has really taken off even though it's not designed like the traditional Hemi.

I guess it depends on who you ask.

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