Marcus, you hit the nail on the head.If the SS makes it to production, I hope they make it an all new model, because it would make anything in the lineup now far uglier.

 

LS2 was seen marked on the inside of that Corvette mule about 4-6 months ago.... I am fairly confident that it is (or was at the time if it has changed) the designation for the C6's motor....

 

i think the C6 will have several engine choices like back in the day

I hope we get a big block. i doubt it though

 

I am still saying it is the 5th gen!

And for those who say the new mustang is better looking..!!


Theres the door=====================>

LEAVE!

Cause you are sick in the head!

~Mike

 

That mustang concept is honestly a total POS. They slaughtered a car that was already slaughtered to begin with. I don't know why the hell everyone is trying to go back to old blocky styling, and old interiors or what not. I like the Dodge Razor concept, thought about saving for it if it were to ever come out, which it won't. 16,000 for a 250hp/torque engine with a 6 speed and 0-60 in 5.9 seconds ain't bad, but hell, you know Dodge is too cheap for that.

 

Thank you! I would love this car as a Camaro. Obviously it isnt perfect, no car has ever been. Err i take that back, i think the McLaren F1 is the most perfect car EVAR!!! but thats another subject...I dont see how this is ugly. It may look a little like a RX8 at some angles, but the new T-Bird looks like an original Corvette more than the old T-bird at some angles.

 

That looks nothing like any part of a 67-69 Camaro. I looks like a 4-door Chrysler. The thing SCREAMS Chrysler. Ugly. I have to leave now, though, because I think the new '05 stang will be my next new car.

Sorry, guys, but Chevrolet left us swinging in the wind, so I'm probably going to do the same to them.

 

Chevy SS specs

2003 CHEVY SS CONCEPT VEHICLE SPECS

Body/chassis structure: body - frame - integral (BFI)
Body material: steel
Chassis material: aluminum
Suspension: C5 (Low arm SLA) suspension components front and rear with coil over shocks (not transverse leaf) (C5 rear transaxle and torque tube replaced with conventional trans, prop shaft, and rear-drive module from C4).
Wheels
Front: 21" x 9"
Rear: 22" x 10"
Tire size
Front: 255/45 R21
Rear: 275/45 R22
Brakes
Front: 6-piston calipers on 14" rotors
Rear: 4-piston calipers on 14.75" rotors rear

Powertrain

Engine: Gen 3 small-block derivative
Engine displacement: 6.0 liters
Horsepower maximum (hp / kw): 430 / 321
Torque maximum (lbs-ft / Nm): 430 / 583
Transmission: Hydra-Matic 4L65-E enhanced for sequential paddle shifting (tap up/down)

Dimensions

Height (in / mm): 53 / 1346
Length (in / mm): 198.9 / 5052
Width (in / mm): 76 / 1930
Wheelbase (in / mm): 121 / 3150
Track
Front (in / mm): 65.75 / 1670
Rear (in / mm): 65 / 1651
Weight (lbs / kg): 3660 / 1660 (estimated)

 

Wow!

You don't see that kind of hardware on too often! (Assuming that made it to production, which it probably wouldn't)

Especially the 6-piston calipers!!!

 

All this stuff is just theoretical...hell its not even that, its just speculation, so no one is right or wrong. Some people may be way more off base than others, but crazy things DO happen in the automotive production world. With that said, I SPECULATE that the SS will be the body style and chassis which the next Camaro will be based. Its too big to be a C6, unless they do some major sizing reductions. I don't think that they would bring this in as a new car altogether because they really don't need to. If they need a 4-Door V8 sports car they would just drop a V8 in an Impala. I don't see any reason to bring back a Chevelle either, when their loyal Camaro enthusiasts are waiting impatiently for their next gen car. Chevelle enthusiasts are not expecting a next generation vehicle right now. The Chevelle was a great peice of automotive history, let it be for kriests sake The Camaro was dropped from the Chevy line-up rather abruptly and totally out of reason. GM knows that if they don't bring back a Camaro, their going to loose a percentage of their market share. The fact that there was still a market for the Camaro (even just the Camaro name alone is going to sell something) and that their loyal enthusiasts will go elsewhere to find their new affordable V8 rear-wheel drive cars will be enough for them to badge the SS as a Camaro. If it loses 2 doors, then they just won me back as a customer.

 

I agree with everything you said except for the part about the Chevelle. I really think Chevy will get their own version of the GTO/Monaro with in the next 2 to 3 years. I think with the right styling it could carry the Chevelle name proudly. Furthermore While I was one of the first in here to talk about the SS concept possibly being a Camaro styling test, I'm not so sure If I'd like it as my next Camaro. Of course it would have to lose the rear doors. Yet when I look at it more and more the more I dislike. My first problem which just about affects the rest of the car, is the A-pillars. I just don’t like the bubble effect they give the rest of the car. This bubble flows into the hood, fenders, roof.... so on... I like where this car is going, but I'd like to see a more aggressive mock up of it. Don’t get me wrong, I love this car. Its my fav at the show this year. I don’t want a blocky car like the mustang concept. Just more style, more aggressiveness. Maybe they should take some styling cues form the 3rd gen. I love the front fascia and the rear end however. I think the rear end is my fav part of the car. Its got the entire 2nd gen thing going on, but with a Ferrari 360 Modena look to it. I love the exhaust exit/tips too. I really don’t think this car has anything to do with the Monte or Impala. Both of those cars are already doing exactly what they need to. Selling a lot. Chevy’s line up would be perfect if they got the Camaro back in a form close to the SS concept and a GTO cloned Chevelle. Corvette as the on top sports car. Camaro as the poor mans vette basically. (We Know what it is) The Chevelle for the man who wants power, but more room and comfort. The Impala and Monte are the grocery getters. Malibu is the basic transportation for soccer moms and fleet sales. And then the Caviler as the most basic form of transportation or as a rice rocket. I think Chevy is headed in the right direction if this all happens.....Ok I’ve rambled again..........

 

I don't know, the SS pictures that I've seen just don't strike me as a Camaro. Yes, its a hatch, 2-door and all that good stuff, however I just don't get the feel of power. Maybe some kind of (non ricey) spoiler, tone down the vette cues make it more stream line, and a ram air hood would make it a more aggressive muscle car.

 

You mean 4-door...
I definately get the same vibe from this car as I do the Camaro. Its got that 'dont fawk w/ me' look and just the overall same ora as the Camaro IMO.

 

I did a little messing around on mic. paint with this picture. It looks great if you extend the front end slightly, lower the car a little, reduce the side windows at the end a little, add a lip spoiler and a ram air hood.

 

well, I haven't posted in the past week as I;ve been busy at the Los Angeles show and also Detroit.

First...where the SS will be in terms of major autoshows: Detroit, St. Louis, Chicago, Cleveland, Minneapolis, and New York. (that's tentative.....)

Second: At Detroit and Chicago, there will also be an SS salon....vintage V8s, videos...etc. You will note that the videos capture the heritage of the SS...and YES, Camaro is captured in the videos.

Third: The SS Concept is NOT a Camaro replacement. (4 doors???) Now...with that said, the design was to capture the essence of SSs of past ... in a new design. You've heard me say it before and I will say it again.....please.....don't judge something by its picture. I've listened to many journalists over the past couple of days remark that the Cheyenne looks terrible in the pictures, yet looks great in person. ....so...come to one of the shows and then make your opinion.

Getting back to the Camaro replacement thing.....I think there are styling cues that remind you of Camaro.....not the entire car...but the taillamps are very reminiscent of the early 2nd gen. The Grille has the look of the late 4th gen...and perhaps the early 2nd gen RS. In my opinion, the car is great looking...but it is not a Camaro replacement and I don;'t think it adequately captures the "Camaro look." So....don't have a cow....you can be assured that when we do another Camaro, it will not be the SS concept car.

Do I think we should offer this car with some changes? You betcha! Will it happen? Don't know.