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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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Re: Ok, how's the first Impala SS vs Charger R/T comparo gonna go?

Charger is going to sell for, what mid $40k's?

I really don't think the Impala SS is going to sell for that much. The original Impala SS went for about $28k MSRP right? I'm better the new Impala SS is going to be around that price.. maybe $30k flat.. Or at least I hope Chevy isn't expecting anyone to pay more than that on MSRP.

a better comparison for the price range would be a base 300 with a bunch of options

maybe a loaded up awd Ford 500..

and whatever Japanese sedans in the $30k flat pricerange.. probably like Accords and Camry's loaded up all with all the options..
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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Re: Ok, how's the first Impala SS vs Charger R/T comparo gonna go?

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Charger is going to sell for, what mid $40k's?

I really don't think the Impala SS is going to sell for that much. The original Impala SS went for about $28k MSRP right? I'm better the new Impala SS is going to be around that price.. maybe $30k flat.. Or at least I hope Chevy isn't expecting anyone to pay more than that on MSRP.

a better comparison for the price range would be a base 300 with a bunch of options

maybe a loaded up awd Ford 500..

and whatever Japanese sedans in the $30k flat pricerange.. probably like Accords and Camry's loaded up all with all the options..
Woah, where'd you get that from? Charger pricing should be slightly less than the Magnum's pricing, considering it's the sedan version of the same car. The Magnum RT is $29,995 with the Hemi. The supercharged V6 Impala SS is $29,995 as well. What makes you think that the Dodge version of the more luxurious 300 is going to cost more?
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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Re: Ok, how's the first Impala SS vs Charger R/T comparo gonna go?

I'm not a big fan of the Charger, but when they make an SRT-8 version, it'd be hard not to buy it.

I want a big car for my family, and if it goes for ~$36k and runs the same numbers as the 300C SRT-8, I'd be all over it.

If you're curious where I get my numbers . . .
SRT-8 package adds $6900 to the MSRP of the 300C.
Magnum RT MSRP is $30,070.
Charger *MAY* be cheaper than the Magnum RT.

Main thing you're missing w/ the Charger is the classy look. Otherwise, the interior is still huge.
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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Re: Ok, how's the first Impala SS vs Charger R/T comparo gonna go?

this autoweek article seems to agree with me, at least for the wagon Magnum SRT8
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101530

My guess is, SRT-8 option is going to put another $5-6k onto it in pricing, and load it with some other manditory options to nudge it to at least tickle right below if not slightly above $40k.. But I guess they strip out the Charger to make it cheaper, than maybe I can see it for $35k at the very least.. But, by all means Chysler, prove me wrong and make it a insane bargain! Maybe I'll pick one up then!


If GM is smart, they wouldn't budge the price of the Impala SS by much or at all.. Unless the interior and fit and finish is absolutely AMAZING(more lux and better quality than say, a $30k lexus) , I can't imagine spending any more than $30k on it, no matter how much HP they are putting thru the front wheels.


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Woah, where'd you get that from? Charger pricing should be slightly less than the Magnum's pricing, considering it's the sedan version of the same car. The Magnum RT is $29,995 with the Hemi. The supercharged V6 Impala SS is $29,995 as well. What makes you think that the Dodge version of the more luxurious 300 is going to cost more?

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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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Re: Ok, how's the first Impala SS vs Charger R/T comparo gonna go?

1) the 300C SRT-8 is selling for $39,995
2) the SRT-8 is not even a comparable car to the Impala. It's packing the 420hp 6.1L Hemi. The regular RT will easily outpower the Impala by a large margin for the same price.

Edit: Thinking about it, I'd be willing to bet that Charger SRT-8 comes in priced the same as the GTO. Those two will be pretty much in the same class...similar HP outputs and market segments, just one a coupe one a sedan.

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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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Re: Ok, how's the first Impala SS vs Charger R/T comparo gonna go?

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I never thought I'd see the day on an enthusiast forum where someone asks why the car with 350hp and RWD is a better buy than the 300hp FWD car.

If that point isn't obvious, then there's no point discussing it any more.
This coming from a person who sold a RWD Z28 to purchase a FWD Toyota econobox

I never said the car wouldn't be more fun to drive and more than likely quicker. I said it was ugly and not neccessarily a "better" car. Tell me again how it is "better" than the Impala...
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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Re: Ok, how's the first Impala SS vs Charger R/T comparo gonna go?

well it depends.. what do they have to strip out to make it cheaper by $7000 from the 300c srt-8, which goes for $40k (and where does that number come from? )7
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Edit: Thinking about it, I'd be willing to bet that Charger SRT-8 comes in priced the same as the GTO. Those two will be pretty much in the same class...similar HP outputs and market segments, just one a coupe one a sedan.
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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Re: Ok, how's the first Impala SS vs Charger R/T comparo gonna go?

Originally Posted by Ken S
well it depends.. what do they have to strip out to make it cheaper by $7000 from the 300c srt-8, which goes for $40k (and where does that number come from? )7

If you're thinking about the Charger SRT-8, you're not cross shopping the Impala SS.
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 11:24 PM
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Re: Ok, how's the first Impala SS vs Charger R/T comparo gonna go?

The SS Impala and charger will be in totally different price classes. Aren't we talking about $28k for an SS impala? And about 36-38k for a Charger.

Speaking of impala SS sales...has anyone considered a V8 impala (perhaps without SS badging) as a fleet vehicle for taxi and law enforcement? That would certainly impact sales.
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 11:38 PM
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Re: Ok, how's the first Impala SS vs Charger R/T comparo gonna go?

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The SS Impala and charger will be in totally different price classes. Aren't we talking about $28k for an SS impala? And about 36-38k for a Charger.
I think you guys are confusing the Charger R/T and Charger SRT-8.

Charger R/T will have a 340 hp 5.7 Hemi, and be priced under $30K.

Charger SRT-8 will have a 425 hp 6.1 Hemi, and be priced in the $36-$38K range.

The R/T is the Impala SS competitor.
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 11:58 PM
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Also, I'm curious to see how the 5.3 performs compared to the current SC3800. Sure, it's gonna have lots more power.....but it will be heavily torque managed. I wonder if all that torque management will end up neutering the V8's performance advantage?
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:43 AM
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Re: Ok, how's the first Impala SS vs Charger R/T comparo gonna go?

I think the Charger will win on all counts cept the boring sedan for hte masses. The charger will be much like the 300 series. If going for fleets, people will choose the charger over the impalla in any case, especially in the police and taxi cases, however taxi's dont matter much as most of their vehicles are pre-owned police vehicles.

The charger will no doubt have more interior space, more power, and is RWD.

The regular folks who are looking for a 4 door sedan dont really care much about a name.
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 01:50 AM
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Re: Ok, how's the first Impala SS vs Charger R/T comparo gonna go?

Originally Posted by uluz28
This coming from a person who sold a RWD Z28 to purchase a FWD Toyota econobox
If there would have been a 200hp car with RWD at $17,000, then it would have been a no brainer to choose that over my car. Unfortunately in the "cheap car to drive back and forth to work" segment there aren't a lot of RWD performance options. In the high 20's there are plenty, which is why the Impala SS never would win or enter my thought process.
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Aeromaks
I think the Charger will win on all counts cept the boring sedan for hte masses. The charger will be much like the 300 series. If going for fleets, people will choose the charger over the impalla in any case, especially in the police and taxi cases, however taxi's dont matter much as most of their vehicles are pre-owned police vehicles.

The charger will no doubt have more interior space, more power, and is RWD.

The regular folks who are looking for a 4 door sedan dont really care much about a name.
Exactly what I was saying. Enthusiasts have a no brainer, for the average person they don't care if it's Charger or not. People keep bringing up styling without acknowledging that this style is already on the market and selling well beyond expectations in the Magnum.

A lot of people are getting kind of wild with the price estimating here. Let's look at what's established:

Magnum SE, 190hp V6: $22,645
Magnum SXT, 250hp V6: $26,145
Magnum RT, 340hp V8: $30,695
Magnum SRT-8, 420hp V8: ~$40,000

300, 190hp V6: $23,995
300 Touring, 250hp V6: $27,895
300C, 340hp V8: $33,720
300C SRT-8, 425-hp V8: ~$43,295

So, base charger is 250hp V6...figure that will come in right around the Magnum SXT, I'd say at $25,000. Wagons always cost a bit more, look at most cars that offer a wagon model.

So that would make the Hemi Charger RT 1-2k less than Magnum RT, so figure ~$28,000-29,000. SRT-8 will probably come in in the high 30's. I'd be willing to bet that Charger RT comes in within $1000 of Impala SS, and likely on the cheaper side. Impala SS is already $29,995 MSRP with the V6, I don't see that going DOWN with the DoD V8.
Old Jan 6, 2005 | 08:06 AM
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Re: Ok, how's the first Impala SS vs Charger R/T comparo gonna go?

300C SRT-8 is priced at $39,995, not $43,xxx.



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