http://www.detnews.com/2003/autosins...b02-332341.htm

 

Here's a pic of the 590 horse V10 motor BTW.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/1...27.eng.500.jpg

 

Ok, no where on here did it say V10 for the Cobra. I'm guessing you got that from "new platform". They're simply stating that it'll be a new generation of Mustang. That picture of the V10 you posted is from the Ford Forty-Nine concept.

 

Looks like GM will beat the Mustang in '05.

GTO > '05 Stang GT

 

Good God - I hope the spark plugs are attainable from the bottom of that thing!

 

From here:

"Other possibilities include supercharged versions of the Mercury Marauder and Lincoln Navigator, a Mustang with a V-10 and a turbocharged Focus"

And that's the 427 Concept...not the Forty-Nine.

 

Most likely ,assuming there's no 350+hp BOSS or Mach-1 and the GTO gets a 400hp Ls-6. Still too early to tell since we don't know the "complete" or planned lineup for 05. I hope it is more than just GT and v6.

From article:
V10 mustang= possible Shelby or Cobra R me thinks. Wouldn't a v10 put the Cobra past $40k? A blown 5.4 sounds like a cheaper solution and more fitting for the Cobra. Let the more pricier models (shelby or R) get the v10 (btw: where's this v10 info coming from other than article??)

Good to hear the Marauder will get blown. That's long overdue. About time the focus got turbocharged. Blown Navi sounds interesting. Hopefully the Ls will have a blower thrown into the mix as well cause the 3.9L v8 is too damn small for such a large car.

Overall, good news.

 

The 427 was a very sweet looking ride. Here's a shot of it from the Dallas Auto Show.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...68121998sqIKfa

 

Man, that engine sho is purdy.

Another shot
http://mustangs.bradbarnett.net/concept/427/4.jpg

These are pics from the 427 concept a while back for those that are wondering.

Don't remember back when the 427 debuted, but wasn't there talks/rumors of a possible v10 Mustang back then?

I still think this engine (if it does in fact goes into a Mustang) will be reserved for high priced Cobra R's or Shelby's. If the regular Cobra comes in at 500hp, any guess's on a v10 or Cobra R? The 590hp rating on this v10 makes it a perfect candidate for a killer R/Shelby or even Ford GT (if they decide to keep it past 2007).

 

Proud Pony ought to weigh in on this, but I believe the V10 is both cheaper and lighter than the blown 5.4.

 

It is in fact lighter than the blown 5.4. I remember reading that a while back. It may even be smaller dimension wise.

Question is cost. I'd be interested to see a price comparo (or guestimates) between it and the S/c 5.4. Then again, a blown 500hp Dohc 5.4 isn't exactly "cheap". It could very well cost more than that N/A 427ci v10.

 

A one off Mustang V10 has already been built. Motor Trend got to drive it a few months back. Here is the text of the article:



American V-8 Power: Ford Mustang Boss 350 V-10
Exclusive Test: Whatever you think you see, this car doesn't exist

By Jack Keebler
Photography by David Freers
Motor Trend
Who says a V-8 is the only engine choice for an affordable car that runs 0-60 mph in under 4.5 seconds? Well, nearly any American powertrain engineer will, though the folks at Mitsubishi and Subaru have had a lot to say about that lately. But what would you get if you started with one company's tried-and-true 4.6-liter/305-horsepower DOHC V-8 residing in a used-up test car destined for the crusher, then added a vivid imagination, some serious know-how, a deep parts bin, a stray company credit card, a tanker load of midnight oil, and, oh yeah, two extra cylinders?

Answer: one of the quickest Mustangs ever built within the walls of Ford Motor Company.


If you do the math, this all-aluminum, DOHC V-10 based on the current Modular 4.6 comes out to be just a smidgen under 351 cubic inches. That's why this silver rocket-launcher proudly and appropriately wears Boss 351 decals in the best '71 Mustang tradition. On a chassis dynamometer, its clandestine motor is said to deliver 430 horsepower and 405 lb-ft of torque to the rear wheels. Given the instrumented results from a late-evening test session, as well as the pair of long black tire stripes we left behind, we have no reason to doubt those numbers.

This Xstang and its V-10 engine are so secret and politically charged that the advanced-powertrain engineers and the Ford (in this case, not so) public-relations person who slipped us onto the company's remote Romeo, Michigan, proving ground insisted they remain anonymous. That's not to say Ford brass is completely unaware that this car and engine were built.

According to these same sources, Chris Theodore, vice president of North American product development; J Mays, vice president of design; Neil Ressler, retired Ford Motor Co. chief technical officer (now consulting on the GT project); and even William Clay Ford Jr., chairman and CEO, have all experienced a dose of eyeball-flattening V-10 thrust (Bill Ford's enthusiastic comment is too colorful to quote here). And J Mays liked this engine configuration so much he wrapped a whole car around it. Mays demonstrated Ford's future-sedan design vocabulary with the 427 Concept, which appeared at the North American International Automobile Show in Detroit this past January. That sedan's V-10 was a rumbling 7.0-liter DOHC design running high-flow Cobra-R-based cylinder heads.

Why did a handful of rogue engineers at Ford Powertrain build these V-10 engines? Simple: They're car freaks, just like us. "You could call it an unfunded research project," offers one of the covert operators, "which can get expensive when you're on your third T56 manual trans, fifth clutch, second nine-inch rear axle, and third set of rear tires."

Indeed, this research project's propensity to gobble driveline pieces is an accounting department's worst nightmare. There's simply no column on any Ford corporate spreadsheet headed "351 V-10" or "V-10 Mustang" project. There are no extra dollars to do the full, official development or manufacturing program needed to put this engine into volume production, either. Ford's SVT/SVE and the Ford Racing shops had nothing to do with it, and this engine is in no way related to the 6.8-liter/310-horsepower SOHC Triton V-10 used in F-250 pickups.


Fortunately, when you work at a major automaker, the parts bin is exceptionally large, and important stray pieces are floating around if you know where to scrounge. This V-10's pistons, valves, and connecting rods are all shared with the 32-valve 4.6-liter Modular V-8. The camshafts, of course, are custom, but they use the same grind profile as the V-8.

Still, some things had to be fabricated outside of Ford or on the engineers' own time. For example, the cylinder heads and block are special castings. The oil pan, intake manifold, and 54-degree crank also are one-offs. Fortunately, the accessory belt-drive system is another component borrowed directly from the Modular V-8 family. Since there's no Ford computer software or electronic hardware for a V-10 of this type, this 351 takes its signals from two blinking dash-mounted control units that run each five-hole cylinder bank independently.

They do a good job of it--most of the time: During a hard deceleration run for the camera, the engine stumbled and quit once. Otherwise, it ran as smoothly as any high-performance production piece approved by the Blue Oval. And then, there's that noise. The handcrafted V-10 sounds wonderful, firing through two Borla mufflers, two more Dynamax muffs, and 2.5-inch tail pipes. Its voice somewhat reminds us of a big-bore Italian V-12's, particularly the bass notes issued up when you get heavy into the pedal. And the burble in no way resembles the vacuum-cleaner-like hiss of the early Viper's V-10. Sometimes things just work out, though two fewer mufflers would be fine by us.

Our test numbers barely reflect the acceleration on tap from this no-name engine-development mule. The BFGoodrich P295/35ZR18 Comp T/As on Saleen wheels were completely overwhelmed by the V-10's surging Mississippi of torque. On our first two acceleration runs, the rubber went up in smoke--in first, second, and third gears. It's an unsettling--but big-time fun--feeling to be spooling rear tires and yawing slightly sideways at better than 80 mph

After we realized that any spin at launch was just burning down the tires and leaving them unhooked until the top of third gear, we tried several frustrating low-rev launches. No good. So the rear tire pressures were dropped significantly to give the contact patches a wider bite. That, of course, added a bit of steering and braking drama at the top of our acceleration runs (about 120 mph) with the end of the guardrail zooming up like a quarter-mile-long can opener.


Finally, we scrabbled out a still-traction-limited 4.4-second blast to 60 and a 12.88/114.44 quarter-mile run. That beats the solid 4.8 to 60 and 13.01 at 110.69 we recently achieved driving an '03 SVT Cobra with the supercharged 4.6. We're confident that, with a set of drag slicks, sub-four-second runs to 60, a quarter in the low 12s, and a warped driveshaft are all possible. Perhaps another time.

The chances of this V-10 ever seeing the light of day resemble that of an Anna Nicole Smith presidential bid. At one time, the engine reportedly had a shot at slipping into the back of the exotic Ford GT. But the cool heads at SVT wisely went with a well-proven 5.4-liter V-8 and a supercharger. The original Ford GT was always V-8-powered, anyway, so it all made sense. Still, the tiny stealth team working on the V-10 believes it never got a clear opportunity to understand the GT's development timing and fairly bid for the job.

On this impassioned underground team's behalf, we can say its backdoor Boss delivers solid muscle, packages neatly into the Mustang's engine bay, and sounds badass. Our short experience behind the wheel indicates the engine's all-aluminum mass doesn't upset the car's basic balance much, either. We hammered the gas pedal, as did a long string of Ford test pilots, shredding tires, frying clutches, shattering pinions, and trashing three of the toughest manual gearboxes available for a street car.

Why? Because--in the very best Woodward Avenue tradition--that's the way it's done in Detroit, baby.

 

Looks like a CGI to me.

 

It is real, I saw it at the NY auto show

see: http://www.autoweek.com/specials/gal...s/B07u0511.htm

 

What's a CGI?