http://www.autoblog.com/2008/12/02/b...are-a-dime-ed/

I wish the news would talk about how bad Nissan and the rest of Japan are doing and stop focusing only on the Big 3

BMW Group -26.8%
Chrysler LLC -47%
FoMoCo -30.6%
General Motors -41.3%
Honda America -31.6%
Nissan NA -42.2%
Toyota Mo Co -33.9%

 

Have you checked out a world map lately and noticed which country you live in?

 

i believe i'm suppose to insert some sort of uninformed media bias comment here.

oh wait this is the lounge and not the automotive news/future vehicles forum

 

It might, just might, have something to do with the fact none of them have asked for a bailout. With talks of coughing up more money to bail out non-productive companies, it's hard to focus on the guys doing a better job.

 

Nissan has a larger market cap than Ford/GM combined. Toyota has a larger market cap than pretty much all the automakers combined.

 

and thats the problem every one thinks the 3 big suck *** make ****ty cars/trucks and now complain that they shouldnt of put so much money into trucks/suvs when guess what NO ONE COMPLAINED BEFORE THIS "DEPRESSION" HAPPENED OR BEFORE GAS PRICES WENT UP! so whos fault is it really? the big 3 or the AMERICAN PEOPLE who bought the bigs 3s large trucks and SUV's and made them so profitable more so then small cars

 

I don't think Nissan, toyota, or Honda are potentially facing bankruptcy, that's probably a big part of it.

 

and to quote Shock for the Kayne West post

the us market wanted the large trucks and suvs and didnt care about gas mileage etc but now a "depression has hit and gas prices are up and people are now bitching "OMG it only gets 12 MPG" yea considering it weighs 6k and has a V8....

 

Its all about marketshare, that is a tell tale sign of the future to come to the big 3.

 

the big 3

i didn't see toyota, honda, et al exactly failing in the 90's by making small cars. they managed to figure out how to make small cars for a profit, the big 3 didn't and abandoned the market to the competition.

then the market shifts just like it has in the past and guess who got caught with their collective pants down...

 

yet again who wanted the large trucks and SUVs tho? we the AMERICAN PEOPLE did... GM was trying to do small cars but when they saw people bought their large trucks and suvs before small cars their priorities changed

 

so by your reasoning no one bought small cars and toyota, honda, et al all were on the brink of collapse and its some sort of miracle they didn't go out of business?

 

It is sad how they let themselves get into this situation. They can blame the economy as much as they want, but the fact remains that they didn't see the writing on the wall with fuel prices, and they didn't care about the quality of the product that they were putting on the road.
To top it all off, GM is dropping to 4 brands-Chevy, GMC, Buick and Cadillac. It amazes me that they are even keeping GMC. It makes perfect sense to have 2 divisions that make pickups, and to drop Pontiac/Saturn that focus on cars/fuel efficient SUVs.

 

the big 3 saw it more profitable to sell trucks and suvs over small cars period that is business if you had a store andonly had 2 items for sell and sold out of ITEM A but never ITEM B which do you think you should supply more for your customers?

 

But...

Honda, Toyota, etc for some reason saw that eventually, efficiency would prevail. Thus, they invested more into fuel efficient cars. The big 3? they were drunk with ignorance. It was not the american people's fault that the big 3 were so ignorant, they could not see that gas prices generally have an upward trend.