new VE Commodore pictures!
new VE Commodore pictures!
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthr...757#post418757
pics from motor magazine.
I really like it
i could definately see a chevelle sedan built off of this and be pulled off amazingly well
pics from motor magazine.
I really like it
Re: new VE Commodore pictures!
Let's not get too carried away.. it's only an artist's impression (read photoshopped) of a bigger Torana concept car. The pics appear in an Aussie magazine which is looking to sell the odd copy. Don't forget.. VE is about a year away from launch.
Re: new VE Commodore pictures!
Originally Posted by JungleMan
If there is a rear-drive sedan from Chevy it should be called Impala.
Re: new VE Commodore pictures!
Originally Posted by SSbaby
Let's not get too carried away.. it's only an artist's impression (read photoshopped) of a bigger Torana concept car. The pics appear in an Aussie magazine which is looking to sell the odd copy. Don't forget.. VE is about a year away from launch. 

i wasnt sure if they were ps or not. i couldnt read the caption well enough to see if it is an artist interpritation. but with 3 pictures i thought it gave it some more credibility
Re: new VE Commodore pictures!
Originally Posted by 0toinsanein5.4sec
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthr...757#post418757
pics from motor magazine.
I really like it
i could definately see a chevelle sedan built off of this and be pulled off amazingly well 
pics from motor magazine.
I really like it

This is already been done.
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...ight=Commodore
Re: new VE Commodore pictures!
Originally Posted by Z284ever
Except there's a FWD sedan called Impala that sells over 200,000 units per year.
Now imagine that it's styled in a revolutionary way. Im not talking Chris Bangle revolutionary. Im talking 1959 Impala revolutionary. 1982 Camaro revolutionary. Classic, timeless styling. Not timeless like a Camry. Timeless like a 1955 Chevrolet.
It CAN BE DONE. They could sell 300k, 350k, or MORE, if they are willing to build a truly GREAT car. But as long as anyone in GM has any shred of that "We dont want to mess with success" mentality, all we're going to get is boring cars that, while worthwhile in their own right, cannot lure buyers back out of import showrooms. Just look at the newest restyling of the Impy for that. Its like the styling committee came foward and said "Yup. We're all out of ideas. Totally out. So we traced the 1995 Lumina. Hope you like it."
Re: new VE Commodore pictures!
Originally Posted by MissedShift
Im not aiming this at you personally sir, but Im getting tired of this lameoid response. For GM to get out of the giant gaping hole they dug for themselves, they're going to need to do things that involve risk. The Impala for example. Sure, it sells 200-250k units a year. Great. But what if someone at GM managed to push through a truly great Impala. A hair bigger than the current model, but still smaller than the B-Bodies. RWD, w/two V6s and a V8 availible, maybe another V8 for a low production (comparatively) SS model.
Now imagine that it's styled in a revolutionary way. Im not talking Chris Bangle revolutionary. Im talking 1959 Impala revolutionary. 1982 Camaro revolutionary. Classic, timeless styling. Not timeless like a Camry. Timeless like a 1955 Chevrolet.
It CAN BE DONE. They could sell 300k, 350k, or MORE, if they are willing to build a truly GREAT car. But as long as anyone in GM has any shred of that "We dont want to mess with success" mentality, all we're going to get is boring cars that, while worthwhile in their own right, cannot lure buyers back out of import showrooms. Just look at the newest restyling of the Impy for that. Its like the styling committee came foward and said "Yup. We're all out of ideas. Totally out. So we traced the 1995 Lumina. Hope you like it."
Now imagine that it's styled in a revolutionary way. Im not talking Chris Bangle revolutionary. Im talking 1959 Impala revolutionary. 1982 Camaro revolutionary. Classic, timeless styling. Not timeless like a Camry. Timeless like a 1955 Chevrolet.
It CAN BE DONE. They could sell 300k, 350k, or MORE, if they are willing to build a truly GREAT car. But as long as anyone in GM has any shred of that "We dont want to mess with success" mentality, all we're going to get is boring cars that, while worthwhile in their own right, cannot lure buyers back out of import showrooms. Just look at the newest restyling of the Impy for that. Its like the styling committee came foward and said "Yup. We're all out of ideas. Totally out. So we traced the 1995 Lumina. Hope you like it."
Re: new VE Commodore pictures!
Originally Posted by MissedShift
Im not aiming this at you personally sir, but Im getting tired of this lameoid response. For GM to get out of the giant gaping hole they dug for themselves, they're going to need to do things that involve risk. The Impala for example. Sure, it sells 200-250k units a year. Great. But what if someone at GM managed to push through a truly great Impala. A hair bigger than the current model, but still smaller than the B-Bodies. RWD, w/two V6s and a V8 availible, maybe another V8 for a low production (comparatively) SS model.
Now imagine that it's styled in a revolutionary way. Im not talking Chris Bangle revolutionary. Im talking 1959 Impala revolutionary. 1982 Camaro revolutionary. Classic, timeless styling. Not timeless like a Camry. Timeless like a 1955 Chevrolet.
It CAN BE DONE. They could sell 300k, 350k, or MORE, if they are willing to build a truly GREAT car. But as long as anyone in GM has any shred of that "We dont want to mess with success" mentality, all we're going to get is boring cars that, while worthwhile in their own right, cannot lure buyers back out of import showrooms. Just look at the newest restyling of the Impy for that. Its like the styling committee came foward and said "Yup. We're all out of ideas. Totally out. So we traced the 1995 Lumina. Hope you like it."
Now imagine that it's styled in a revolutionary way. Im not talking Chris Bangle revolutionary. Im talking 1959 Impala revolutionary. 1982 Camaro revolutionary. Classic, timeless styling. Not timeless like a Camry. Timeless like a 1955 Chevrolet.
It CAN BE DONE. They could sell 300k, 350k, or MORE, if they are willing to build a truly GREAT car. But as long as anyone in GM has any shred of that "We dont want to mess with success" mentality, all we're going to get is boring cars that, while worthwhile in their own right, cannot lure buyers back out of import showrooms. Just look at the newest restyling of the Impy for that. Its like the styling committee came foward and said "Yup. We're all out of ideas. Totally out. So we traced the 1995 Lumina. Hope you like it."
I'm all for a RWD Chevy sedan (more than you might know). I'm just questioning the assertion that it must only be called Impala. Chevy already has a very successful Impala.
Re: new VE Commodore pictures!
Originally Posted by MissedShift
Im not aiming this at you personally sir, but Im getting tired of this lameoid response. For GM to get out of the giant gaping hole they dug for themselves, they're going to need to do things that involve risk. The Impala for example. Sure, it sells 200-250k units a year. Great. But what if someone at GM managed to push through a truly great Impala. A hair bigger than the current model, but still smaller than the B-Bodies. RWD, w/two V6s and a V8 availible, maybe another V8 for a low production (comparatively) SS model.
Now imagine that it's styled in a revolutionary way. Im not talking Chris Bangle revolutionary. Im talking 1959 Impala revolutionary. 1982 Camaro revolutionary. Classic, timeless styling. Not timeless like a Camry. Timeless like a 1955 Chevrolet.
It CAN BE DONE. They could sell 300k, 350k, or MORE, if they are willing to build a truly GREAT car. But as long as anyone in GM has any shred of that "We dont want to mess with success" mentality, all we're going to get is boring cars that, while worthwhile in their own right, cannot lure buyers back out of import showrooms. Just look at the newest restyling of the Impy for that. Its like the styling committee came foward and said "Yup. We're all out of ideas. Totally out. So we traced the 1995 Lumina. Hope you like it."
Now imagine that it's styled in a revolutionary way. Im not talking Chris Bangle revolutionary. Im talking 1959 Impala revolutionary. 1982 Camaro revolutionary. Classic, timeless styling. Not timeless like a Camry. Timeless like a 1955 Chevrolet.
It CAN BE DONE. They could sell 300k, 350k, or MORE, if they are willing to build a truly GREAT car. But as long as anyone in GM has any shred of that "We dont want to mess with success" mentality, all we're going to get is boring cars that, while worthwhile in their own right, cannot lure buyers back out of import showrooms. Just look at the newest restyling of the Impy for that. Its like the styling committee came foward and said "Yup. We're all out of ideas. Totally out. So we traced the 1995 Lumina. Hope you like it."
The best selling car in the US is the Toyota Camary, at 322,000. The current Chevrolet Impala (over 290,000 sold last year) is in the top 5 best selling cars , behind Accord, Civic, and Taurus. The fact that none of these cars are pulse quickening, heart stopping designs should tell you something.
Of all GM, only Chevrolet and Cadillac are doing very well. Pontiac, which has perhaps some of the most stylish cars at GM is all but on life support, right there with Buick.
Chrysler has a home run with the 300, but that's not by overall car sales. The 300 (as well as Cadillac's CTS) has big fans and is a huge success at their own level, but CTS only sells about 60-72,000 per year and the 300 will probally top out at 120K. Jaw droppingly amazing sales figures for a luxury brand like Cadillac and a car company as small as Chrysler North America, but still no threat to a Impala or Taurus, let alone a Camary or Accord.
What sells in bulk and makes money (it's a business, so it's all about making money) is stylish but non-risky automobiles. When we (me included) spend alot of time around alot of other car nuts, it's easy to think we are the pulse of the car market. However, we aren't.
Last edited by guionM; Jun 10, 2005 at 11:57 AM.
Re: new VE Commodore pictures!
Originally Posted by guionM
What sells in bulk and makes money (it's a business, so it's all about making money) is stylish but non-risky automobiles. When we (me included) spend alot of time around alot of other car nuts, it's easy to think we are the pulse of the car market. However, we aren't. 



