new chevy/GMC full size vans...
new chevy/GMC full size vans...
I haven't seen many on the road at all yet
chevy looks decent IMO-
http://www.chevrolet.com/express/index.html
GMC-
http://www.gmc.com/gmcjsp/savana/ind...pageName=index
the GMC is hidious
well it's not as a** ugly as those stupid euro Sprinter van things that FedEx uses now. Those things look like a turd on wheels.
chevy looks decent IMO-
http://www.chevrolet.com/express/index.html
GMC-
http://www.gmc.com/gmcjsp/savana/ind...pageName=index
the GMC is hidious
well it's not as a** ugly as those stupid euro Sprinter van things that FedEx uses now. Those things look like a turd on wheels.
Last edited by Richard Cabeza; Jan 13, 2003 at 02:14 PM.
As ususal, the chevy is the better looking oif the two.
What I don't get is, why are there tow different versions of the same vehilve, one for Chevy one for GMC>
These things have to be the most alike vehicles that GM sells in 2 divisions.
I say get rid of GMC---make'em all Chevys
What I don't get is, why are there tow different versions of the same vehilve, one for Chevy one for GMC>
These things have to be the most alike vehicles that GM sells in 2 divisions.
I say get rid of GMC---make'em all Chevys
I have seen them both on the road and they are both identical. The chevy just has the bar though the grill. I don't know how one can be called ugly and the other can't.
Why do they keep GMC you ask? Becuase GMC is the second best selling GM nameplate behide Chevy!!!!!!!!!! they should get rid of Pontiac, Buick Saturn, or Caddy before GMC.
Why do they keep GMC you ask? Becuase GMC is the second best selling GM nameplate behide Chevy!!!!!!!!!! they should get rid of Pontiac, Buick Saturn, or Caddy before GMC.
Hmm.....get rid of GMC and those customers would just buy Chevy-----I see lots of duplication
in having GMC----guess it gives Pontaic?Buick dealers a truck to sell.
Despite what GMC says (professional grade) I can't see GMC trucks appealing to a different buyer then a Chevy truck. Kinda goes aginst the rules of when to segment a market.
Saying that--I will say that GMC has tried to distinguish itself NOW more then ever before---and I guess it must work out for them--otherwise they'd be gone too.
Get rid of Pontaic?? That's crazy---the Grand Am is one of the highest volume passenger cars sold by GM---at least the styling is different from it's corporate cousin--the Malibu
in having GMC----guess it gives Pontaic?Buick dealers a truck to sell.
Despite what GMC says (professional grade) I can't see GMC trucks appealing to a different buyer then a Chevy truck. Kinda goes aginst the rules of when to segment a market.
Saying that--I will say that GMC has tried to distinguish itself NOW more then ever before---and I guess it must work out for them--otherwise they'd be gone too.
Get rid of Pontaic?? That's crazy---the Grand Am is one of the highest volume passenger cars sold by GM---at least the styling is different from it's corporate cousin--the Malibu
The overall side shots look a little more rounded-off than the previous style and reminds me too much of an 80s Astro Van. I like a full size van to be big, square, & boxy and who cares about a slick aero look? We're talking a heavy-azz van. The general overall look is good, and I don't see where all the GMC criticism is coming from!? That GMC van has a really good utility-looking front end. Totally classic GMC look. Looks good to me. Like it's saying it's ready to take serious abuse and come out stronger for it. Likely to be huge with phone companies and heating-A/C companies and stuff like that. Chevy has the milder more approachable front look which families and churches will like.
GT
GT
I don't care what anyone thinks, these are the absolute ugliest vans in the world ever-
http://www.mercedes-benz.com/e/ecars...er/default.htm
http://www.mercedes-benz.com/e/ecars...er/default.htm
Originally posted by Richard Cabeza
I don't care what anyone thinks, these are the absolute ugliest vans in the world ever-
http://www.mercedes-benz.com/e/ecars...er/default.htm
I don't care what anyone thinks, these are the absolute ugliest vans in the world ever-
http://www.mercedes-benz.com/e/ecars...er/default.htm

Needless to say, I think Dodge should run their current vans for another 35 years instead of resorting to this.
Originally posted by guionM
These are the vans that's replacing Dodge's Full Size vans.
Needless to say, I think Dodge should run their current vans for another 35 years instead of resorting to this.
These are the vans that's replacing Dodge's Full Size vans.

Needless to say, I think Dodge should run their current vans for another 35 years instead of resorting to this.
Originally posted by guionM
These are the vans that's replacing Dodge's Full Size vans.
Needless to say, I think Dodge should run their current vans for another 35 years instead of resorting to this.
These are the vans that's replacing Dodge's Full Size vans.

Needless to say, I think Dodge should run their current vans for another 35 years instead of resorting to this.
These vehicles wandered on the highway, had horrible fuel economy, cruddy drivetrains, and poor directional stability. They wandered on the highway even when new. The ultra grabby, lock-up prone brakes take the cake, though. Even rear cargo access was terrible - something that is of the paramount importance in a cargo van.
I looked at the Sprinter when it arrived at my local Freightliner dealer. Admittedly, these vehicles have crude, bad taste interiors. There again, rainbow colored plaid upholstery is popular in European commercial vehicles. The important thing is that the Sprinter has a modern efficient turbodiesel powerplant and exceptional packaging.
The downside is that the new Sprinter is a bit pricey and is way too high to fit through a standard garage door - even in the short roofed versions. If I was shopping for a full-sized van, I'd still be looking at Chevy first.
Originally posted by redzed
The current Dodge van was the closest thing to a wheeled donkey I've ever seen. They weren't just worse than the current full-sized vans from Ford, they were even poor in comparison to a 20 year old Chevy.
These vehicles wandered on the highway, had horrible fuel economy, cruddy drivetrains, and poor directional stability. They wandered on the highway even when new. The ultra grabby, lock-up prone brakes take the cake, though. Even rear cargo access was terrible - something that is of the paramount importance in a cargo van.
The current Dodge van was the closest thing to a wheeled donkey I've ever seen. They weren't just worse than the current full-sized vans from Ford, they were even poor in comparison to a 20 year old Chevy.
These vehicles wandered on the highway, had horrible fuel economy, cruddy drivetrains, and poor directional stability. They wandered on the highway even when new. The ultra grabby, lock-up prone brakes take the cake, though. Even rear cargo access was terrible - something that is of the paramount importance in a cargo van.
Furthermore they're the easiest cargo van to work on service-wise by far and last forever. I've got a 1982 with over 350,000 miles. You don't need a jack to change the starter, you can change the spark plugs sitting in the front seats, and you can GET TO THE WHOLE ENGINE. This is the direct opposite of annoying Chevy Express and Astro vans, which I also have personal experience with.



That grill and headlight design is horrifying .