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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 12:51 PM
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Question Which new car will snag the sales a 2003 Camaro might have

There are 3 cars that are out or are within a month or so of introduction that are priced about where a well optioned Z28 was till "GMed" (noun, meaning: 1) to let wither & die without investment over a period of years. 2) terminate a model line just when it's done right or at it's most popular) the f-body line. Which one do you think will pick up the most customers who would have bought a Camaro or Firebird if available in 2003.

(note, even though these cars are brand new, we were told here by GM reps that this market was dead, and that's why f-bodies were discontinued)

a) Mustang Mach1 about $28,000
b) Lexus(?!) G35 coupe about $28,000
c) Nissan 350Z about $28,000
Old Sep 17, 2002 | 12:54 PM
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Re: Which new car will snag the sales a 2003 Camaro might have

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There are 3 cars that are out or are within a month or so of introduction that are priced about where a well optioned Z28 was till "GMed" (noun, meaning: 1) to let wither & die without investment over a period of years. 2) terminate a model line just when it's done right or at it's most popular) the f-body line. Which one do you think will pick up the most customers who would have bought a Camaro or Firebird if available in 2003.

(note, even though these cars are brand new, we were told here by GM reps that this market was dead, and that's why f-bodies were discontinued)

a) Mustang Mach1 about $28,000
b) Lexus(?!) G35 coupe about $28,000
c) Nissan 350Z about $28,000
I'd rank them as follows: (as far as snagging sales from Camaro's death)


1) Mach 1
2) 350Z
3) G35
Old Sep 17, 2002 | 03:08 PM
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Mustang is going to clean up. I would't be surprised to see them pick up another 20-30K units, thanks to the F-car's demise.
Old Sep 17, 2002 | 03:11 PM
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I agree that the Mach 1 would take the cake, so to speak.

The other two, seem like a toss up.

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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 03:16 PM
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What about the WRX and soon to arrive EVO8? Those that know about turbo AWD cars, this may also take sales from the 3 prior cars.
Old Sep 17, 2002 | 05:04 PM
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Re: Which new car will snag the sales a 2003 Camaro might have

Originally posted by guionM


a) Mustang Mach1 about $28,000
b) Lexus(?!) G35 coupe about $28,000
c) Nissan 350Z about $28,000
It's Infiniti(?!), not Lexus(?!)...

I'd like to say 350Z, but sales were going to be good regardless. The WRX is going to continue to sell well and so will the Mitsu equivalent, perhaps nabbing a couple would-be Fbody buyers. But you've made a major omission in leaving out V6 alternatives, with the V6 accounting for a large portion of Fbody sales (the Cougar was also in this category and is also being axed). So I would look for bigger numbers in the less performance minded coupes aswell. Cars such as the RSX, Tiburon, Celica, Sebring, Stratus, and V6 Mustang. Those that are brand loyal may go with Grand Ams and Monte Carlos. So I don't think there will be one large benefactor, but more of a dispersion amongst all of the other coupe offerings.
Old Sep 17, 2002 | 05:19 PM
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Wouldn't the mach 1 be a limited run?

I think the GT will easily do most of the cleaning up. Why isn't it listed?
Old Sep 17, 2002 | 05:35 PM
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The Mustang definately takes it. I know from personal experience. I had a 94 camaro & I totaled it. I ended up getting a 01 v6 Stang instead of a 02 camaro because I couldn't justify spending $20k on a car that was practically the same as my $6k 94. Right now I'm getting my down payment together & I will be purchasing a 03 Mustang GT. I would've got a Z in a heartbeat, but it's not an option anymore
Old Sep 17, 2002 | 05:46 PM
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FWIW, my brother just bought a WRX and loves it. Personally I can't fathom buying a Ford "Anything."

The new Nissan Z is pretty nice though, or if GM would make a std. cab SS... heck... I'll probably just buy an old Camaro and fix it up.
Old Sep 17, 2002 | 09:02 PM
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LT1 runner: I have trouble thinking that a person who was going to buy a Camaro would buy small AWD 4 door sedan instead, and vice versa. A front drive Toyota Celica, or an Eclipse maybe. A small sedan, doubtful.

jrp4uc: opps! I stand corrected. As far as the other cars you mentioned, I didn't state what I was trying to do clearly enough. A Z28 cost about 28K nicely loaded. There are a few cars that are here that have close if not the same performance for about the same price. I was wondering who would benefit the most from Z28's absence, but I said Camaro. My bad. Just the same, the V6ers you mentioned will no doubt get Camaro V6 sales.
Old Sep 17, 2002 | 09:12 PM
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350Z for 28K??? I just saw one on a dealer lot on Saturday for 39K...marked up from 35
Old Sep 17, 2002 | 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by uluz28
350Z for 28K??? I just saw one on a dealer lot on Saturday for 39K...marked up from 35
The "coupe" (base model) is $26,269. The "track" is $34,079. There are 3 versions in between that are all under 30 grand. They all have the same engine, so unless you are actually going to compete on the race course, the base model is probally the best value.

More info: http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/details/nissan03350z/
Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:16 PM
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Obviously the M*****g will. People who want musclecars only have 1 choice now.

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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 12:29 AM
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Hrrm...I'd say that the 'stang will easily snag most of the sales between the 3 although, im not sure why...

Personally, I'd take a 350Z over a GT, or Mach 1; but then again, I'd rather have an '03 Cobra more than any...

back on topic, ahem, it really is a tossup between the g35 and 350z...

on one hand, sports car w/ boring stuff available(luxury), and on the other a luxury sport coupe(2 more seats)...hrrmm...if i must choose one, based on sheer lust i'll go w/ the 350z

as always, all IMO
Old Sep 18, 2002 | 01:13 AM
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Just wondering, does anyone know if the 350Z will get turbo'ed? The 300ZX was and if it is going to be a competitor to the new Cobra and the Mach 1, it's going to need a power boost.

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