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Old 08-24-2005, 05:42 AM
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New Camaro based on big car or smaller car?

What would you prefer any new Camaro to be based on?
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Well considering right now I am going through hell trying to shed pounds off my car, yet keep it streetable (Goal of 300 pounds weight reduction), I would have to vote keep the car small and sporty.
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As long as the end result is a great Camaro at a great price... whichever works.
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Re: New Camaro based on big car or smaller car?

The pity here is that using a smaller, sportier platform...like Holden showed for the Torana concept, most likely isn't going to happen. The money isn't there to create a new architecture for Camaro. Actually, let me back track. The political will isn't there to create a premium small car architecture that Camaro could be based on.

Rumor has it that people like Lori Queen (VLE smallcars), don't believe Americans want smaller RWD cars....hence, no platform. No Torana, no Pontiac version of Torana, no small/sporty platform Camaro.

What Camaro will be based on is a large car platform, in the same way Mustang is. Therein lies our dilemma. How do you take a large, heavy car platform and spin a ponycar on it. Ford gave us the larger, bulky new Mustang.

And what will Chevy give us?
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What Camaro will be based on is a large car platform, in the same way Mustang is. Therein lies our dilemma. How do you take a large, heavy car platform and spin a ponycar on it. Ford gave us the larger, bulky new Mustang.
...which is selling 200,000 units annually....
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...which is selling 200,000 units annually....
So was the last one...with competition.
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So was the last one...with competition.
200,000 is still 200,000....
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200,000 is still 200,000....
Oh, for sure. And no competition gives you plenty of lee-way.
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Re: New Camaro based on big car or smaller car?

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Oh, for sure. And no competition gives you plenty of lee-way.

Perhaps.... Perhaps....

It's just that this whole size thing is just so beaten to death, IMO...

I know it's not RWD, but how does the smaller Eclipse sell compared to Mustang?

How about Celica (is it still around?) ..... How about a host of other small sporty cars?

I'm not a huge Mustang fan, but size is NOT that big of a deal.... as long as the size fits the styling, everything is fine.
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Smaller, lighter sports platform. Regardless that people like guionM think that unless you want the 5th gen Camaro to be Chevy Mustang, you want it to fail.
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Re: New Camaro based on big car or smaller car?

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Perhaps.... Perhaps....

It's just that this whole size thing is just so beaten to death, IMO...

I know it's not RWD, but how does the smaller Eclipse sell compared to Mustang?

How about Celica (is it still around?) ..... How about a host of other small sporty cars?

I'm not a huge Mustang fan, but size is NOT that big of a deal.... as long as the size fits the styling, everything is fine.
I would rather have a smaller, more nimble car, than a smaller looking car. In this case, smaller is better. I am not talking about Miata small here, but I am not talking about Mustang large either.
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Re: New Camaro based on big car or smaller car?

I think the Camaro has always been a little "bigger" and that doesn't bother me.

Although, that's a startling statistic to Ford if they aren't selling anymore now that GM is out of the picture with the Camaro. Maybe the Market Trenders were right when they said the Pony Car market is drying up... More of a "Tuner Market" right now and that probably accounts for the Pony Market shrinkage...
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Re: New Camaro based on big car or smaller car?

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Although, that's a startling statistic to Ford if they aren't selling anymore now that GM is out of the picture with the Camaro. Maybe the Market Trenders were right when they said the Pony Car market is drying up... More of a "Tuner Market" right now and that probably accounts for the Pony Market shrinkage...


Well, the comment that Mustang isn't selling anymore than the old model is another loaded comment... I have read that 200,000 or so is about the max build capacity for Mustang, so it's hard to sell more than you can make.
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As long as the end result is a great Camaro at a great price... whichever works.
Amen x 5000.


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small lighter platform.

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