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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 11:48 AM
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a shame they are going to waste that fine engine by putting it in a truck
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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Re: New aluminum pushrod V10 coming from GM

Originally Posted by R377
Why is this? When GM switched from the SBC to the LSx, they went from 5 bolts down to 4. This gave them much more freedom in the cylinder head design to optimize flow. Especially on an OHV engine, I think it would be a step backwards to go back to 5 bolts.
Saves on blowing head gaskets at really high cylinder pressures...

Like when using nitrous...

Nobody ever said it made terrific financial sense, just that I'd like to see them design a modern large displacement motor that way.
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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American Metal Market reported April 17, 2003
Does this not raise any flags?
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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Re: New aluminum pushrod V10 coming from GM

Originally Posted by R377
Why is this? When GM switched from the SBC to the LSx, they went from 5 bolts down to 4. This gave them much more freedom in the cylinder head design to optimize flow. Especially on an OHV engine, I think it would be a step backwards to go back to 5 bolts.
reason is simple.

its hard to get insane power levels to seal reliably over time with the LS1. with the SBC, you could run a 9 second motor all season without headgasket issue.
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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reason is simple.

its hard to get insane power levels to seal reliably over time with the LS1. with the SBC, you could run a 9 second motor all season without headgasket issue.
Yup. What he said.
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MrDude_1
reason is simple.

its hard to get insane power levels to seal reliably over time with the LS1. with the SBC, you could run a 9 second motor all season without headgasket issue.
Doesn't seem to be an issue with Ford's 4.9L V8.

Besides, GM needs to design the best engine it can for the street. It doesn't make sense to make compromises to how well an engine will perform on the street, just for the sake of making it more bulletproof for the .0001% of people who want to make 800hp.
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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i think i can shoe horn a v10 in the z.
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Als Z
This is gunna be GM's heavy duty engine, probably replacing the 8.1 in HD in trucks. GMT900 is being made for the V10
Looks like this is gunna be a truck-only engine, but ya never know. But what else would this be put in?
Big Caddy? With Caddy trying to move up market, why put a OHV "outdated" pushrod engine in there car...but they did it with the Sixteen...
Maybe a big Buick?! That would be awesome.
I think you are thinking about that a bit much. Most, probably 90% of consumers aren't going to know the difference between pushrod and DOHC and all that, all they know is its a V10, which is extremely rare and powerful. They put a pushrod in a pretty expensive CTS and look how thats doing...nobody cares if its "just a pushrod."
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Meccadeth
I think you are thinking about that a bit much. Most, probably 90% of consumers aren't going to know the difference between pushrod and DOHC and all that, all they know is its a V10, which is extremely rare and powerful. They put a pushrod in a pretty expensive CTS and look how thats doing...nobody cares if its "just a pushrod."
Funny how the Hemi is a pushrod and not one Import biased auto mag bashes it. It is also selling like hotcakes.
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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Funny how the Hemi is a
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pushrod and not one Import biased auto mag bashes it. It is also selling like hotcakes.
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 04:03 PM
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Funny how the Hemi is a pushrod and not one Import biased auto mag bashes it. It is also selling like hotcakes.
Funny how the Hemi ain't a Hemi and looks like a Rat with LSx runners.
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 04:26 PM
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Re: New aluminum pushrod V10 coming from GM

Originally Posted by R377
Doesn't seem to be an issue with Ford's 4.9L V8.

Besides, GM needs to design the best engine it can for the street. It doesn't make sense to make compromises to how well an engine will perform on the street, just for the sake of making it more bulletproof for the .0001% of people who want to make 800hp.
You are kidding right ....about the 5.0 . It is a big issue , ask any ford racer about their 4 head bolts
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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Re: New aluminum pushrod V10 coming from GM

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Funny how the Hemi ain't a Hemi and looks like a Rat with LSx runners.
You ever seen GM 8.1L heads?

They ARE rat heads with Gen III/IV SB runners...
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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I'm pretty sure GM will not put this around... they are always too chicken to do things.. finally they are going to put a 427 after 40 years!!! WTF?
Old Oct 5, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MissedShift
You ever seen GM 8.1L heads?

They ARE rat heads with Gen III/IV SB runners...
yeah, but the 8.1 IS a rat. The Hemi isnt a hemi.

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