Most Americans Now Say They May Buy Hybrid Cars
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Perfect time for Toyota to launch a $25,000 Hybrid Camry. Hmm... $25k for a midsize sedan that's also a hybrid? Doesn't sound like that much of a "hybrid premium" compared to other non-hybrid midsize cars.
...or you'd rather spend your money on technology than gas...
The only reason to but a hybrid is if you have to much money or you're completely ignorant.
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Originally Posted by WERM
Perfect time for Toyota to launch a $25,000 Hybrid Camry. Hmm... $25k for a midsize sedan that's also a hybrid? Doesn't sound like that much of a "hybrid premium" compared to other non-hybrid midsize cars.
...or you'd rather spend your money on technology than gas...
...or you'd rather spend your money on technology than gas...
And of course there's that argument that overall the total life cycle, hybrids aren't really much better than their normal counterparts..
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I still think that people in general just don't understand hybrid buyers. Most of them really don't care about "saving money" (otherwise they'd buy a $9000 Aveo) so "payoff analysis" is irrelevant to most of them.
Hybrids will fully take off when gas goes way up in price or the cost of the technology comes wasy down. That's when they will be relevant to "the rest of us."
Hybrids will fully take off when gas goes way up in price or the cost of the technology comes wasy down. That's when they will be relevant to "the rest of us."
Re: Most Americans Now Say They May Buy Hybrid Cars
Originally Posted by WERM
I still think that people in general just don't understand hybrid buyers. Most of them really don't care about "saving money" (otherwise they'd buy a $9000 Aveo) so "payoff analysis" is irrelevant to most of them.
Re: Most Americans Now Say They May Buy Hybrid Cars
Originally Posted by WERM
Perfect time for Toyota to launch a $25,000 Hybrid Camry. Hmm... $25k for a midsize sedan that's also a hybrid?
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Why don't they start public awareness campaigns on the higher cost of production of hybrids, higher cost of purchase, higher cost of maintenance, the fact that it may take 5 - 8 years of savings on fuel to make up for the higher initial cost, that once the warranty is out and replacement batteries/electrical components are needed it will be necessary to take the mortgage out... as well as the long-term environmental effects of battery disposal or recycling.
And what about SMUG that hybrid cars create?
Why not point out that low-sulphur diesel vehicles will get same or better mileage consistently without the hybrid price premium, and are actually normal cars.
Gosh, some people...
And what about SMUG that hybrid cars create?
Why not point out that low-sulphur diesel vehicles will get same or better mileage consistently without the hybrid price premium, and are actually normal cars.
Gosh, some people...
Re: Most Americans Now Say They May Buy Hybrid Cars
Originally Posted by WERM
I still think that people in general just don't understand hybrid buyers. Most of them really don't care about "saving money" (otherwise they'd buy a $9000 Aveo) so "payoff analysis" is irrelevant to most of them.
Hybrids will fully take off when gas goes way up in price or the cost of the technology comes wasy down. That's when they will be relevant to "the rest of us."
Hybrids will fully take off when gas goes way up in price or the cost of the technology comes wasy down. That's when they will be relevant to "the rest of us."
That may or may not be so, but I personally will buy an Impala and convert it to Natural Gas, just like cabbies do. Same low price, same engine, and runs on both fuel types at the switch of a button.
Re: Most Americans Now Say They May Buy Hybrid Cars
Originally Posted by Ken S
From a cost perspective, you usually only "break even" after 5-7 years.. Although now that hybrids are becoming cheaper, that number may be going down.
And of course there's that argument that overall the total life cycle, hybrids aren't really much better than their normal counterparts..
And of course there's that argument that overall the total life cycle, hybrids aren't really much better than their normal counterparts..
Well, Honda manages to make its highest-end Accord into Hybrid, with V6 and all options, making it the most expensive 4-door Accord in the lineup.
If you're going for a hybrid, why not stick to cloth seats and base model?
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Originally Posted by Ken S
Yea.. Think China and India.. One has the biggest population.. the other has the most dense population (and has a huge population too!)
I've read articles that China is expected to rival the whole industrial wold when it comes to pollution and energy consumed.. Which is possible, if you think all those billions of people being brought "online".
Actually, which touches on a tangent point, if/when the US is no longer the #1 consumer market, and most sales of various product are made overseas there... what does it mean to US?
I've read articles that China is expected to rival the whole industrial wold when it comes to pollution and energy consumed.. Which is possible, if you think all those billions of people being brought "online".
Actually, which touches on a tangent point, if/when the US is no longer the #1 consumer market, and most sales of various product are made overseas there... what does it mean to US?
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Strangely enough Honda announced today that they are going to be cutting back production of Hybrids because sales and demand have been so low.
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Hybrids aren't all about saving money - they also add power to the vehicle (look at the LS600H that was just annonced by Lexus. ~4.6L 450 horsepower naturally aspirated hybrid V8, and also allow us to divert some money from the oil companies to the realm of technology. Gas isn't going to change... they'll just keep bringing in money and refining more of it. By supporting the hybrid industry we at least can continue to make progress in one direction or another.
Heck... let's see E85 hybrids with DOD and direct injection. Best of all the current day new techs.
Heck... let's see E85 hybrids with DOD and direct injection. Best of all the current day new techs.
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