more on:...Delphi attacks workers and spoils execs
more on:...Delphi attacks workers and spoils execs
A lot more may be riding on Delphi than many realize...as per S.Miller.
And since other threads were growing too large, I wanted to share this insite in an easier accessable thread. This is by the Pres. of the UAW.
"An additional $88 million would go to Delphi's top 500 executives when the company emerges from bankruptcy or its assets are sold off at fire sale prices. In other words, they get the money.....whether Delphi survives or dies."
And since other threads were growing too large, I wanted to share this insite in an easier accessable thread. This is by the Pres. of the UAW.
Friday, December 02, 2005
Delphi attacks workers and spoils execs
CEO Miller should stop the insults, negotiate equitable plan with UAW
by Ron Gettelfinger
Suppose your employer was in serious financial trouble. Would you be willing to make sacrifices to keep the company going? If you were confident the sacrifices would be shared equitably from top to bottom – and that everyone would be rewarded fairly when the company got back on its feet – you probably would.
But what if your company's chief executive wanted to cut your pay and benefits by more than 60 percent, while giving a select group of executives, including many who steered the company into the ditch, bonuses and stock potentially worth more than $500 million? And what if some top executives were in line for bonuses totaling $21.5 million for the first six months the company was in bankruptcy?
And what if your boss, who'd been on the job just five months, spent much of his time jetting around the country doing interviews with Business Week, the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal and other media in which he declared the company's biggest problem is that workers like you are grossly overpaid while top executives are woefully underpaid?
Chances are you'd be insulted, outraged and flat-out disgusted.
Of course, no chief executive in his right mind would ever really do those things, right? Wrong. Delphi Chief Executive Robert S. "Steve" Miller is doing all that and more.
In his many media interviews, Miller has told Delphi's hourly workers (and all blue-collar working Americans) that the American Dream is a thing of the past unless you're as smart and powerful as, well, Steve Miller and his army of high-priced bankruptcy lawyers and restructuring consultants.
Miller's first contract proposal to the UAW would have slashed the wages of production workers to $9.50 an hour, which works out to $19,760 a year – barely above the official U.S. poverty level of $19,197 for a family of four. His second proposal was only marginally better: $10.50 an hour, rising to $12.50 over two years. Plenty of people, Miller says, get by on these wages.
Maybe Miller should try it. He's made a lot of noise about taking only $1 a year starting Jan. 1, but my guess is that he'll "get by" on his $3 million signing bonus and $750,000 salary for July-December of this year. By the way, at $10.50 an hour, a Delphi worker would have to work 171 years to match Miller's $3.75 million for six months on the job.
And rest assured, Delphi executives won't have to worry about getting by. The company has filed with the federal bankruptcy court a proposed "Key Employee Compensation Plan" that, among other things, would give an unspecified number of Delphi executives "incentive bonuses" totaling $43 million during the two years Delphi expects to be in Chapter 11 reorganization.
An additional $88 million would go to Delphi's top 500 executives when the company emerges from bankruptcy or its assets are sold off at fire sale prices. In other words, they get the money whether Delphi survives or dies. If it does emerge from bankruptcy, fewer than 600 "key employees" will get 10 percent of the shares in the "new" Delphi.
In other words, while Miller is intent on kicking Delphi's hourly workers out of the middle class, he's just as intent on lavishly rewarding the people at the top for, well, presiding over things like accounting irregularities and Delphi stock plummeting to 33 cents a share.
The UAW and other unions are fighting Delphi's obscene "pay for failure" plan in court. And we're not alone; the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp., the U.S. bankruptcy trustee, and shareholder and bondholder groups have filed complaints, too.
Delphi's "key employees" aren't the only ones who stand to make millions through the company's bankruptcy. On Wednesday, The Detroit News detailed the flood of money from Delphi to law firms, investment bankers and consultants.
A few highlights: Delphi's lead law firm, Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom, was paid $9.85 million before Delphi filed for bankruptcy on Oct. 8; the firm's lead attorney bills Delphi $835 an hour. The investment banking firm Rothschild & Co. is in line for a $15 million "completion fee" when Delphi completes its reorganization plan.
Miller has called Delphi "a flash point, a test case, for all the economic and social trends that are on a collision course in our country and around the globe." I agree, though for very different reasons.
If Miller's vision of America's future gains wider acceptance by corporate and government leaders, we're all in deep trouble because his vision is an America sharply divided between a super-rich elite and the working poor, with no middle class as we know it today.
Make no mistake: The UAW is willing to work with Delphi to craft a fair and equitable plan to get the company back on track, just as we've worked with Chrysler, Navistar, Ford, General Motors and other companies to solve tough problems.
We've proven we can do it. Now, it's up to Steve Miller to stop his counterproductive attack on workers, their families and our communities and negotiate in good faith.
This article first appeared on Dec. 2, 2005, in the Detroit News’ Labor Voices.
Delphi attacks workers and spoils execs
CEO Miller should stop the insults, negotiate equitable plan with UAW
by Ron Gettelfinger
Suppose your employer was in serious financial trouble. Would you be willing to make sacrifices to keep the company going? If you were confident the sacrifices would be shared equitably from top to bottom – and that everyone would be rewarded fairly when the company got back on its feet – you probably would.
But what if your company's chief executive wanted to cut your pay and benefits by more than 60 percent, while giving a select group of executives, including many who steered the company into the ditch, bonuses and stock potentially worth more than $500 million? And what if some top executives were in line for bonuses totaling $21.5 million for the first six months the company was in bankruptcy?
And what if your boss, who'd been on the job just five months, spent much of his time jetting around the country doing interviews with Business Week, the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal and other media in which he declared the company's biggest problem is that workers like you are grossly overpaid while top executives are woefully underpaid?
Chances are you'd be insulted, outraged and flat-out disgusted.
Of course, no chief executive in his right mind would ever really do those things, right? Wrong. Delphi Chief Executive Robert S. "Steve" Miller is doing all that and more.
In his many media interviews, Miller has told Delphi's hourly workers (and all blue-collar working Americans) that the American Dream is a thing of the past unless you're as smart and powerful as, well, Steve Miller and his army of high-priced bankruptcy lawyers and restructuring consultants.
Miller's first contract proposal to the UAW would have slashed the wages of production workers to $9.50 an hour, which works out to $19,760 a year – barely above the official U.S. poverty level of $19,197 for a family of four. His second proposal was only marginally better: $10.50 an hour, rising to $12.50 over two years. Plenty of people, Miller says, get by on these wages.
Maybe Miller should try it. He's made a lot of noise about taking only $1 a year starting Jan. 1, but my guess is that he'll "get by" on his $3 million signing bonus and $750,000 salary for July-December of this year. By the way, at $10.50 an hour, a Delphi worker would have to work 171 years to match Miller's $3.75 million for six months on the job.
And rest assured, Delphi executives won't have to worry about getting by. The company has filed with the federal bankruptcy court a proposed "Key Employee Compensation Plan" that, among other things, would give an unspecified number of Delphi executives "incentive bonuses" totaling $43 million during the two years Delphi expects to be in Chapter 11 reorganization.
An additional $88 million would go to Delphi's top 500 executives when the company emerges from bankruptcy or its assets are sold off at fire sale prices. In other words, they get the money whether Delphi survives or dies. If it does emerge from bankruptcy, fewer than 600 "key employees" will get 10 percent of the shares in the "new" Delphi.
In other words, while Miller is intent on kicking Delphi's hourly workers out of the middle class, he's just as intent on lavishly rewarding the people at the top for, well, presiding over things like accounting irregularities and Delphi stock plummeting to 33 cents a share.
The UAW and other unions are fighting Delphi's obscene "pay for failure" plan in court. And we're not alone; the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp., the U.S. bankruptcy trustee, and shareholder and bondholder groups have filed complaints, too.
Delphi's "key employees" aren't the only ones who stand to make millions through the company's bankruptcy. On Wednesday, The Detroit News detailed the flood of money from Delphi to law firms, investment bankers and consultants.
A few highlights: Delphi's lead law firm, Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom, was paid $9.85 million before Delphi filed for bankruptcy on Oct. 8; the firm's lead attorney bills Delphi $835 an hour. The investment banking firm Rothschild & Co. is in line for a $15 million "completion fee" when Delphi completes its reorganization plan.
Miller has called Delphi "a flash point, a test case, for all the economic and social trends that are on a collision course in our country and around the globe." I agree, though for very different reasons.
If Miller's vision of America's future gains wider acceptance by corporate and government leaders, we're all in deep trouble because his vision is an America sharply divided between a super-rich elite and the working poor, with no middle class as we know it today.
Make no mistake: The UAW is willing to work with Delphi to craft a fair and equitable plan to get the company back on track, just as we've worked with Chrysler, Navistar, Ford, General Motors and other companies to solve tough problems.
We've proven we can do it. Now, it's up to Steve Miller to stop his counterproductive attack on workers, their families and our communities and negotiate in good faith.
This article first appeared on Dec. 2, 2005, in the Detroit News’ Labor Voices.
Last edited by 90rocz; Feb 18, 2006 at 12:07 PM.
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Anything written by Ron Gettlefinger is going to have such a ridiculous slant, it isn't even funny. I'm not saying he's lying, but I am saying he isn't telling the whole truth.
I noticed you're into posting Gettlefinger stuff these days...
I noticed you're into posting Gettlefinger stuff these days...
Re: more on:...Delphi attacks workers and spoils execs
Well, the truth usually lies somewhere in between... but I can't stand hearing stories about the executives 'setting themselves up for life' when the company is on the brink of collapse. It happens all the time and happens across all industries.
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I guess I will just never understand the INSANELY ridiculous salaries when you get up to the top executive and CEO level .....not just at Delphi , but as a whole .
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I can't say I am going to shed a tear for the loss of a union job. Frankly, I get tired of hearing all this crap about what CEO makes vs. what the employees make. The difference of pay for a CEO vs.the regular worker is simple to understand. There are LOTS of people that can do the regular worker's job, there aren't as many that can run a company, and run it well. If a person has the talent to do this and do it well, they deserve to reap the benefits.
What was typed above is a general statement for those that complain about how much "Somone" makes, as I can't think that the CEO of Delphi is doing all that good, considering where the company is financially.
What was typed above is a general statement for those that complain about how much "Somone" makes, as I can't think that the CEO of Delphi is doing all that good, considering where the company is financially.
Last edited by Kris93/95Z28; Feb 18, 2006 at 03:44 PM.
Re: more on:...Delphi attacks workers and spoils execs
This is one of the rare times that I will support the UAW if the majority of this is true. Management pay should be cut to see who really is interested in their jobs for the work and not the money.
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Miller is a complete idiot. I'm not so sure about Gettelfinger either though. He will of course put a huge slant on these things but the fact is Miller needs to go. Everybody in that company should be tightening their belts willingly right now and it's just not happening. Thats also a very interesting point about what they are paying in legal fees. Completely unreal.
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Same thing sorta happened at my retail last job. The company cut full time positions in every store (basically said take part time or your fired), ran with less than a skeleton crew, and put a stop to all raises. Then once all that was said and done gave themselves bonuses totaling 65mil. Now don't get me wrong. I'm not complaing about how much someone makes, but when the company isn't doing good executive payroll should be the last thing on the priority list.
IMHO that was NOT the sign of good managment. Looked more to me like greed.
IMHO that was NOT the sign of good managment. Looked more to me like greed.
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The situation for auto supplier companies has far more root in currency manipulation by Japan and other far east countries. No meaningful action has been put forth by the west and no response from western governments, ours... or others to level the field and attempt to address how free trade is not a literal description of what is going on.
CEO salary or Union compensation are not why the U.S. auto industry is faced with challenges.
CEO salary or Union compensation are not why the U.S. auto industry is faced with challenges.
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With ANY reading I do, no matter what the source, I kinda ignore the "editorial" comments, and extract the facts...ofcourse any author puts their own "slant" on things.
My point is, you're not going to hear a lot of this on the mainstream media, they know where their bread is buttered.
And people most of the time don't understand why unions take such "firm" stances on things, well, most of the time, outsiders don't get the "whole story".
Like Ron said
BTW, I don't put him on a pedastool either, he's suuurrreee not perfect.
You can't discount everything someone says based on stereotyping either. Make no mistake, you're getting it from both sides...you have to sort throught the lies for yourself, somewhere in the middle, you'll see the truth.
My point of posting this is, this will be a KEY event, whether intentionally or not, in the industry's future dealings. Everone needs to hear the sides the media won't touch.
My point is, you're not going to hear a lot of this on the mainstream media, they know where their bread is buttered.
And people most of the time don't understand why unions take such "firm" stances on things, well, most of the time, outsiders don't get the "whole story".
Like Ron said
,"Make no mistake: The UAW is willing to work with Delphi to craft a fair and equitable plan to get the company back on track, just as we've worked with Chrysler, Navistar, Ford, General Motors and other companies to solve tough problems".
Anything written by Ron Gettlefinger is going to have such a ridiculous slant, it isn't even funny. I'm not saying he's lying, but I am saying he isn't telling the whole truth.
My point of posting this is, this will be a KEY event, whether intentionally or not, in the industry's future dealings. Everone needs to hear the sides the media won't touch.
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CEO salary or Union compensation are not why the U.S. auto industry is faced with challenges.
NO, it's NOT the SUM of the challenges, but on the other side, cutting your lowest compensated employees, compensation, merely offsets those high salarys and perks...just spinning their wheels.
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While I'm not in support of Unions, I do believe 9.50/hr is ridiculous. Hell you can make that at our Local walmart and basically stock some shelves here and there.
What they should do is eliminate hourly pay. Pay their Employees 35k a year starting out. No Overtime PERIOD. Overtime is a waste of money. Most of the time the employees are tired and their job performance is about half of Normal and they get paid 1.5x or more.
They should get paid on Salary with raises determined by Job Performance. If they perform poorly 2 years in a row (short of doing something stupid warranting getting fired) then have it in the procedures to write them up to be fired.
This way you don't have employees working the system and making 65k a year, when you could have hired a second person on at that point. Salary is pay based on Job Performance, Hourly is based on just showing up...
Don't bitch about CEO's Salarys, usually a blip on the map and quite honestly they went to school xx number of years, worked their way up in the corporate ladder (not easy), and are making the decisions on weither the company lives or dies. Now in this case should they have a job based on Delphi's situation? I dunno, but if they have done their job well they deserve that Salary...
What they should do is eliminate hourly pay. Pay their Employees 35k a year starting out. No Overtime PERIOD. Overtime is a waste of money. Most of the time the employees are tired and their job performance is about half of Normal and they get paid 1.5x or more.
They should get paid on Salary with raises determined by Job Performance. If they perform poorly 2 years in a row (short of doing something stupid warranting getting fired) then have it in the procedures to write them up to be fired.
This way you don't have employees working the system and making 65k a year, when you could have hired a second person on at that point. Salary is pay based on Job Performance, Hourly is based on just showing up...
Don't bitch about CEO's Salarys, usually a blip on the map and quite honestly they went to school xx number of years, worked their way up in the corporate ladder (not easy), and are making the decisions on weither the company lives or dies. Now in this case should they have a job based on Delphi's situation? I dunno, but if they have done their job well they deserve that Salary...
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Originally Posted by Chrome383Z
Don't bitch about CEO's Salarys, usually a blip on the map and quite honestly they went to school xx number of years, worked their way up in the corporate ladder (not easy), and are making the decisions on weither the company lives or dies. Now in this case should they have a job based on Delphi's situation? I dunno, but if they have done their job well they deserve that Salary...
I dunno...I think that CEOs should make lots of money...but to put it in perspective, should they make 100X, 200X, or 300X+ more than what the lowest wage employee makes?
Even if they take the company to ruin?
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Originally Posted by Chrome383Z
Don't bitch about CEO's Salarys, usually a blip on the map and quite honestly they went to school xx number of years, worked their way up in the corporate ladder (not easy), and are making the decisions on weither the company lives or dies. Now in this case should they have a job based on Delphi's situation? I dunno, but if they have done their job well they deserve that Salary...
If these jokers wanted to really prove their worth, they'd take, say maybe 250 to 350k a year in salaries then balance out the rest in stock options or the like, that way they'd have a vested interest in the performance of the company which fittingly would be based on how well they did thier jobs.


