Z284ever

Well.....make your requests gents. Bob Lutz has opened the door for you.


Personally, I'd be happy with a 4, a turbo 4, and a V8 line up.

200 hp, 300 hp, 400 hp.

ZZtop

And by the time the 6th Gen comes out, hopefully it will look like this: 37mpg, 32mpg, 27mpg

JakeRobb

I'd like to see something along the lines of the LNF, a turbo version of the DI 3.6, and a turbo/supercharged DI V8 (LSA?).
call it 260 (base), 400 (SS), and 550hp (Z28).

An all-forced-induction lineup would be sweet, and would contribute positively to the fuel economy ratings.

Z284ever

I think those are very achievable ratings and would go a long way towards securing the brand's future.

muckz

It would need to weigh 2900-3000 lbs to run 1/4 mi in the 15s. With RWD and IRS? Don't think so.

teal98

With a manual? I was thinking more like 3200.

Anyway, you're probably right and it would likely be low 16s without more HP. That's still fast enough for a base model in a 40mpg CAFE world.

SSbaby

All I will agree on is that the 5th Gen is a Camaro in every way. It's designed right (aggressive while beautiful). Has the right powertrains (V8 is still king otherwise what's the point of Camaro?). It's going to be priced right. It's the perfect modern day muscle car that will do its heritage proud.

Those who are on the 4 cyl turbo bandwagon are just destroying it's link to past Camaros... effectively sealing its fate. A Camaro is not a small car in the tradition of a BMW 3-series. European cars are too small for American (and Aussie) muscle car enthusiasts.

jg95z28

The people that suggest the Camaro should be a BMW 3-series sized coupe forget that the 3-series itself is an overweight bloated caricature of its former self. The 3-series evolved from/replaced the 2002, which by today's standards would be more comparable to a Chevy Cobalt or Ford Focus. Modern safety standards have made the Camaro what it is today, not lack of forethought or insight from GM's engineers.

That is not to say that there isn't room for a smaller 3-series sized line of RWD sports coupes powered by turbo Ecotecs in GM's line-up. It is only to say that such a car shouldn't be called "Camaro" and more correctly should probably be limited to Cadillac's line-up. And thus with the current recession and economies of scale, GM really needs to be focusing on inexpensive and efficient appliance cars for the average consumer. In a nutshell, the Cruze and Orlando are where they should be focusing their attention moving forward. Keep the Camaro alive on Zeta until GM turns the corner and can afford to spend a little money developing future niche vehicles like the Corvette and Camaro without having Washington and the Press jumping down their throats.

97z28/m6

i'd love a RWD "cobalt SS"

Gold_Rush

Sounds good but i wouldn't mind seeing a small turbo 6 like the 2.8 or 3.0 in that middle 300hp bracket either.

Z284ever

I wouldn't mind either. But I figured the other way would keep it CAFE positive enough to protect the availability of a V8.

Z284ever

Of course, you have a right to your own opinion, but considering where you live, have you even ever seen, ridden in, driven or owned a Camaro?

Z28x

3 series too small? He needs to take a ride in a 4th gen. Big car with smaller than Aveo interior. I'd love Camaro interior as big as the 3 series interior.

Z284ever

The 3 series interior seems QUITE ABIT bigger than a 3rd or 4th gen - especially the back seat. In fact, I'd probably say that the 1 series coupe is closer in interior space to the Camaros we're used to.

The 5th gen back seat seemed to have alittle more leg room than previous Camaros though. But even the 5th gen doesn't feel roomier than a 3 series coupe - front seats or back. In fact the 3 coupe might even have abit more headroom in the back than the 5th gen. Not that this would influence any sort of buying decision for me.

zachisageek

Have a look at the 135i vs. M3 some time. The 3 series (like most cars) have become so bloated, that the 135i can dust an M3 in a drag race and around corners.