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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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Latest official Kappa word (in Detroit News Colbalt article)

The info on the Colbalt is wort the read in itself.

But the article goes a bit further, & talks about the Kappa (intresting bits highlighted in blue).

...Saturn will add a sporty small car to its stable in 2006 based on GM’s Kappa architecture, the same underpinnings as the 2006 Pontiac Solstice, a rear-wheel drive, two-seat convertible. A Kappa-based Saturn concept car called the Curve made the rounds at this year’s auto show circuit, but Queen says the car Saturn will sell is not the same as the Curve, offering no further details.

Other GM divisions, including Saab, also could be selling small, sporty cars based on the Kappa architecture in the future.

“I don’t think there’s a division that’s not fighting to get one,“ Queen said. “The decisions aren’t made but it’s very likely we will branch off to other divisions for the next generations of what comes out of Kappa.”

But little sports cars may not be appropriate across GM’s far-flung brand structure, warns AutoPacific’s Hall.

“Unless they can differentiate them enough, there may not be room in every division,” Hall said. “Put it where it makes the most sense.”

A third Kappa-based vehicle called the Chevrolet Nomad was introduced as a concept car in January. Unlike the Solstice, it looks more like a station wagon and is proving to be fodder for heated debate within the company as to whether or not to produce it for sale.

When asked if a decision has been made, Ann Asensio cracks a mischievous smile that belies all she knows but won’t reveal, and says in her soft French accent, “We’re still working on it.”
Old Jun 16, 2004 | 08:42 PM
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I heard that Saturn will get a car that looks just like the Opel concept, and Opel will get the Solstice - the only one they could get to market before the European pedestrian impact standards come into play.
Old Jun 16, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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I don't think it's a good idea to throw a Kappa-roadster in each brand's lineup unless they are greatly differentiated (or non-roadsters). I'm not completely sold on the Nomad either, but I think it's a better fit than the Chevy Sportster.
Old Jun 16, 2004 | 11:54 PM
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I like Chevy Monza.

A RWD 2+2 hatchback in the $18-$24K range.
Old Jun 17, 2004 | 01:34 AM
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It too bad that when the Solstice comes out it will have loads of dealer mark up. Even when chrysler launched the PT convertible for only $19,995 (at that price it only comes as a strippy) and if you wanted to add any options you would have to move up to the limited trim level at $23,000. Chrysler dealers also dont carry the base model anyway since it used mostly for advertising a low base price which they have no real intentions at selling in volume at.

The same as the Crossfire convertible with a base price of $34,995 but it only comes in black paint and with black cloth and if you want a different color or different seats you are forced to move up to the limited model for $4000 more.

While pontiac might keep the base price of the Solstice at $19,995 dont be planning at buying one at that price because its not going to happen and especially if you live in sunny California

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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by Z284ever
I like Chevy Monza.

A RWD 2+2 hatchback in the $18-$24K range.
Ah.. the Monza.

It's nice to have someone around who actually remembers those cars.
Old Jun 17, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by Z284ever
I like Chevy Monza.

A RWD 2+2 hatchback in the $18-$24K range.
Would that potentially impact a future"C----" in Chevy's product portolio?

What was the demise of the Monza anyway?
Old Jun 17, 2004 | 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by dream '94 Z28
Would that potentially impact a future"C----" in Chevy's product portolio?

What was the demise of the Monza anyway?
Monza was initially intended to replace the Camaro in the mid 70s & be rotary powered. Instead it came out with a V8 option & ursurped Camaro for a few years.

When GM decided to continue the F-body & work on it's replacement (the 3rd gen), the Monza name was rolled in with and replaced the Vega as an economy car line. It also lost it's V8.

Monza was later replaced by the Cavalier line.

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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by dream '94 Z28
Would that potentially impact a future"C----" in Chevy's product portolio?

What was the demise of the Monza anyway?
Yeah Tim, it would certainly hit the same price points as the lower end of Camaro.

I wonder if such a Monza would appeal to a different audience though. Or, I wonder what the performance difference would be between a base 240hp V6 Camaro and a top end 240 hp turbo I4 Monza?
Old Jun 17, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by Z284ever
Yeah Tim, it would certainly hit the same price points as the lower end of Camaro.

I wonder if such a Monza would appeal to a different audience though. Or, I wonder what the performance difference would be between a base 240hp V6 Camaro and a top end 240 hp turbo I4 Monza?
I wonder if this would work? If Pontiac wasn't to get a Solstice coupe, what about the coupe for Chevy with the Monza name. This would be the ultimate 'poorman's Vette'. A small, two seat sports car, high power/low weight, exotic name. Similar yet different than the Camaro.

My 'off the top of my head' marketing thinks, tho, this could be a very small market. Dunno, I'm in design not marketing (thank god!).
Old Jun 17, 2004 | 10:46 AM
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Chevrolets only Kappa should be the nomad. Otherwise it will have too much overlap with current and future Chevrolets.

I hope someone builds a 3-series like Kappa Sedan
Old Jun 17, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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I'm waiting for a nicely styled kappa based sport coupe I hope whichever division(s) get the platform, they produce a coupe as nice loking as the solstice coupe concept
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