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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 08:32 PM
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Keyless option on the C6, please explaine

from the chevrolet website

Keyless Access with Push-Button Start in addition to exterior touch pad entry and interior push-button exit

How does this work

http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/C6_preview/
Old Aug 12, 2004 | 08:50 PM
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GM summoned dark magic.
Old Aug 12, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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I'd imagine you have a little remote thing like a car alarm you keep in your pocket... car detects you coming, unlocks door, you enter push a button the ls2 roars to life and you're on your way... this is only a guess.

edit: nevermind I don't understand what the interior exit button does? spring under your seat? No door handle? Maybe the exterior touch pad can read fingerprints... now this is getting a little crazy.

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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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Very simply (and in as few words as possible...) The car recognizes the Key fob...allowing the door to be opened by a soft pad release. (the great thing is you never have to touch the paint to open or close the door...) Inside, there is another button that you push that unlatches the door to exit the car. The car also recognizes the fob for ignition and you simply push a button on the dash to start the car...push it again to shut it off. A second push down puts it in accessory mode. If you leave the fob in the car and shut the door, the horn sounds a quick three blasts to remind you. There is no key cylinder in the dash whatsoever.

Should the battery die for some reason, there is also a key...you put it in a lock cylinder above the rear license plate..which in turn opens the hatch....inside the hatch is a manual release for the driver's door. should you be in the car for whatever reason and the battery dies, there are manual latches alongside each seat that also manually release the door latch.

It has taken me a while to get used to it....esp with 'hmmm...where do I put the fob other than in my pocket???" However, once you get used to it, it is hard to get back into a regular car or truck and use the key system.

We've tested it 60 ways to Sunday to ensure that there are backups...and that the system is reliable.
Old Aug 12, 2004 | 09:36 PM
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Just like my friend's Prius. Kinda neat actually.
Old Aug 12, 2004 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Planet
What Red Planet said...
That kicks ***.
Old Aug 12, 2004 | 10:54 PM
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Yeah, the STS and XLR also have this technology. Its something that Caddy gave the Corvette to make it uber-pimp.
Can we expect this as an option on the upcoming Chevy Coupe?
And I belive the keyless thing is standard, not optional. The keyless start is awesome too.
Old Aug 13, 2004 | 11:03 AM
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Re: Keyless option on the C6, please explaine

How do you start it if your fob battery goes dead?
Old Aug 13, 2004 | 12:08 PM
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good question, but I think there is a regular igntion for the key.
Like Red said, hes tried it "60 ways to Sunday." Ill take his word on it.
Old Aug 13, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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How do you start it if your fob battery goes dead?
I read on another board that if the battery goes dead, you can hold the fob within an inch or so of the starter button, and the starter button can detect the fob's precence even without the battery in it.

All this is great and kind of neat... but you gotta figure this whole setup is gonna confuse and freak out some people along the line.

Is all the added complexity really worth what you gain? Not so sure about that...
Old Aug 13, 2004 | 12:32 PM
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Added complexity is what keeps things advancing and sets carmakers apart. Unfortunately, with added complexity comes added cost and expense to maintain/repair.
Old Aug 13, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ZZtop
Added complexity is what keeps things advancing and sets carmakers apart. Unfortunately, with added complexity comes added cost and expense to maintain/repair.

I normally agree... but with the old system (a key) you didn't have to remember 50 different procedures in case of a failure (release handles under the seats, hidden key cylinder above the license plate, etc etc etc...) and about the only failure you could have with a key is if you lost it or it physically broke...
Old Aug 13, 2004 | 01:27 PM
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wow...I knew that GM couldnt get any love with the keyless design.
Figures...par for the course on this webstie.
Why should GM do anything anymore? Why take risks huh?
Old Aug 13, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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it just gives thieves another easy car to steal. the car may be dead without a fob, but the fob sends an electronic signal right? all the thief has to do is figure out what kind of signal it is and duplicat it. once that's figured out, black market "fob coders" will start to spring up that will just use brute force to figure out the specific signal needed for the specific car. and there you go, the thief can now take your car without even having to break into it anymore. in fact, i bet you GM has a "master" coder tucked away somewhere in a safe or something that they use for testing. if someone "leaks" or "borrows" this thing, it's game over.

it's as rediculous a concept as software "cd keys". every one of those things is generated using an algorithm. once this algorithm is known, there you go, you have your "authentic" fake key.

honestly, what do you think is easier to bypass, a physical obsticle (key) or a virtual one (electromagnetic signal)?

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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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Re: Keyless option on the C6, please explaine

Originally Posted by morb|d
it just gives thieves another easy car to steal. the car may be dead without a fob, but the fob sends an electronic signal right? all the thief has to do is figure out what kind of signal it is and duplicat it. once that's figured out, black market "fob coders" will start to spring up that will just use brute force to figure out the specific signal needed for the specific car. and there you go, the thief can now take your car without even having to break into it anymore. in fact, i bet you GM has a "master" coder tucked away somewhere in a safe or something that they use for testing. if someone "leaks" or "borrows" this thing, it's game over.

it's as rediculous a concept as software "cd keys". every one of those things is generated using an algorithm. once this algorithm is known, there you go, you have your "authentic" fake key.

honestly, what do you think is easier to bypass, a physical obsticle (key) or a virtual one (electromagnetic signal)?

Jeez Morbid who pissed in your cheerios?

I would rather have the virtual one because there is an infinite different keys out there but with a physical key, say one with only 10 dumblers there is a finite number of possible keys that will open it. Also it is much easier to pick a physical lock than a 'virtual' one. All said and done I trust the system enough to not be bothered by it. Also physical keys aren't so great anyone here try to mix and match keys on an early 90's probe will know they are pretty versitle.



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