YUCK, I hope not.

 

No.

 

The proof will be at the NAIAS in 2006. If no Camaro is shown at that show, then you can bet no camaro is coming back.

 

If there is a car at the 2006 show, dont you think we would hear something about it buy the fall of this year (2005). Or are they on double secret lock down on anything to do with a Camaro?

 

Johnny is a nice enough guy and a true enthusiast.....but I don't believe that I personally share his vision of what a 5th gen Camaro should be.

My perception is that he is rooting for an "as cheap as possible" motor in a box V8 car, with live rear axle. It conjures up images....for me...of a sort of shortened Trailblazer platform with 2+2 seating. Very far from my personal vision for Camaro.

Johnny, are you out there? Anything to add?

 

Given that he's originally a 5.0 Mustang guy [which really was a cheap box with a v8 and live axle, really just a motor platform], I think you are probably right.

 

Oh, I know for a fact that I'm right.....just wondering if his view is any different right now.

 

Yes we should, if they is one in the making. I suspect that there is not. Not a camaro at least.

 

Hasn't it been said that the Zeta coupe might not be called Camaro. So we know that we are getting a V8 RWD car in MY 2007. It just might not be Camaro.

 

I probally have more of a 5.0 Mustang history than he does. Having personally owned at least 6 5.0 Mustangs, including my attempt to drive one '85 LX coupe into the ground (the car won, and I sold it at 225,000 miles), I should be more of an engine in a box type than anyone, but I'm not.

Take a gander at some of the hard core Camaro fanatic's posts here. You'll get the impression that alot of them feel that GM should simply bring back the old 4th gen with a Z06 engine and the public will go gaa-gaa over the result and they'll sell boatloads of them.

Not sure Johnny's position on it (though I technically work for him), but I think he's more of a Hot Rod-Drag Strip type of guy, and they tend to be engine in a box guys. I'm more of a Autocross-Road Course type, so I value a car that doesn't side-hop on real road curves and has horrific rolling acceleration.

Ironic for a former 5.0 Fox Mustang guy.

Maybe my T-bird SC spoiled me.

 

That is an old article and, in typical GM fashion a lot has changed. Especially on the Buick front.

But wait, I wouldnt know anything though because GM does not pay to fly me places nor give me vehicles to do reviews in.

 

Delphi: In my world bidding on something and having a contract are two very different things.

Johnny & corners: I seem to recall him really enjoying corners in the Thunderchicken build up.

Johnny & spelling: The car is Infiniti.

 

Yeah, most of my friends are Fox Body guys who slowly evolved into SN-95 guys say that the 4th gen is too....bland. The car has no hard lines, just curves. While that's great, it's just not the styling the masses are into right now. Also, they all say the frond end looks like a catfish.

And they also say that they LOVE my '92. They always ask about it and what happened to it. I really haven't hear of one person who didn't love the '91-92 Camaro bodystyle.

 

Catfish?! That's a new one.

I never really warmed up to the SN95 till the '99 Mustang rebody. It got my attention, but I really didn't go fall for it till the Mach 1. Now that I actually drove that blown Cobra, it's the only other car I'd consider right now outside of the GTO (and to a slightly lesser extent, the new Mustang).

I came over to Camaro because of performance and it being something different. It was the quickest ride you could buy for the money, and it actually had utility with the hatchback & fold down rear seats.

I also like it's Monza on steroids look (I had a Spyder before I bought my 1st 5.0). I agree, the design of the 4th gen is FAR from tidy. It bulges out in as many places as Elvis in his final years (coincidence? ). The car's overhangs made it look like the exterior bodywork was put on a chassis the size of a Pinto. And what's with that ridiculous windshield?!

But at night, you can't beat the overall impact of a shiny 4th gen Camaro, especially the pre-'98's with the recessed headlights. Hard to name anything that looks meaner.

 

I'm just the opposite, I hate the '98's and up, with the exception of the '03-4 Cobras.

Anyways, about the catfish comment, this is an avatar that a buddy of mine uses on Missouri fbody:

http://mutiny32.com/catfishls1.jpg

He's a reader of this board, so he'll most likely IM me for posting his avatar.