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Japan voices concerns over “Buy American” provisions

Old Jul 25, 2009 | 10:30 PM
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I understand the argument, but I'm not well versed enough in international trade agreements to say that we are or are not violating an existing agreement.

But kind of hitting along what the article states, I think that most people need to forget their archaic view of what "buy American" means. If you can buy an Honda or a BMW that is made by American workers in South Carolina or Alabama, how is that somehow "less patriotic" than buying a Pontiac made in Australia?

If we're going to put "buy American" incentives into things, which I don't mind in the least, then let us make it mean things that are made by Americans instead of just reverting to whatever the $1 emblem on the hood says.
Old Jul 25, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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**** you japan, **** you.
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 01:10 AM
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They wanted to stimulate the domestic economy, not the Chinese economy.
This post is highly underrated. As usual, we are our own worst enemy.

Folks, pick up any 10 items in your home and tell me how many are made in the U.S. How many are made in China? Better include the Domino's pizza on the counter or it might be a shutout...

For what its worth my definition of an american company is one that if asked would stop what they are doing and produce the required hardware to defend us against attack by a foreign nation. You know, because their allegiance is to America.

I'm sort of a bottom line kind of guy though.
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by El Duce
But kind of hitting along what the article states, I think that most people need to forget their archaic view of what "buy American" means. If you can buy an Honda or a BMW that is made by American workers in South Carolina or Alabama, how is that somehow "less patriotic" than buying a Pontiac made in Australia?

If we're going to put "buy American" incentives into things, which I don't mind in the least, then let us make it mean things that are made by Americans instead of just reverting to whatever the $1 emblem on the hood says.
Depending on the vehicle, assembly labour can count for 10% or less of a car's transaction price, so that's not exactly the best indicator of its contribution to an economy.
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 07:48 AM
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I'll join with the chorus of "Screw Japan"...

All those UAW workers without a job should be storming the US Capital over this one...
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by R377
Depending on the vehicle, assembly labour can count for 10% or less of a car's transaction price, so that's not exactly the best indicator of its contribution to an economy.
But if you want those workers in Bama or wherever to be more gainfully employed, or that factory to hire more workers etc, then wouldn't buying more of those cars accomplish the goal?

Originally Posted by Hoodshaker
For what its worth my definition of an american company is one that if asked would stop what they are doing and produce the required hardware to defend us against attack by a foreign nation. You know, because their allegiance is to America.

I'm sort of a bottom line kind of guy though.
How many times has that happened? Once, in a very, very unique situation?
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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I voice concerns over their unfair trade policies.
Preach it, Josh!
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by El Duce
But if you want those workers in Bama or wherever to be more gainfully employed, or that factory to hire more workers etc, then wouldn't buying more of those cars accomplish the goal?
If you want the stimulus dollars to do the most for the American economy, then you'd target the cars with the greatest percentage of US content, including parts, labour, engineering, management, etc. Focusing on just the assembly location misses the majority of the money.
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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It does matter where the profit goes as well.

Exporting that is akin to giving away the store.

Add another vote for "screw Japan".
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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F*ck Japan. They've been doing the same thing for decades, and they've got the ***** to complain if someone else does it? Screw them.
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 10:15 PM
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“...we are concerned that there will be more moves to promote purchasing of American products.”
Yeah, those bastards... how dare they.
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:32 AM
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Japan's had heavy taxes against any non domestic vehicles (US, European) for years, they have no right to be complaining about this.
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:54 AM
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When I hear anything from the japanese complaining about "protectionist" policy I get a big laugh thing going...
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 01:36 AM
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