It's Official - Exxon Hits Record Profits for Any Corporation Ever
Couple things,
Here's a good page to poke around on regarding some a large business and commitment to change. I've worked with a couple of people who are in charge of this and they are honestly good people who enjoy helping others.
http://www.ge.com/citizenship/index.jsp
About the generation of lazy kids -- I guess I took it to heart a little as I probably spent half my time playing sports and half the time on the couch with a can of Pringles
But for me, video games turned into computer games, which really got me interested in computers and consequently I ended up with a Computer Science degree and a pretty good job. There's hard work involved there, but sometimes motivation comes from places you wouldn't expect.
And to lighten up the mood just a lil:
...and even if he's a lazy man – and the Dude was most certainly that. Quite possibly the laziest in Los Angeles County, which would place him high in the runnin' for laziest worldwide
Anyways, interesting stuff none the less. Took me entirely longer than I thought to read through it
Here's a good page to poke around on regarding some a large business and commitment to change. I've worked with a couple of people who are in charge of this and they are honestly good people who enjoy helping others.
http://www.ge.com/citizenship/index.jsp
About the generation of lazy kids -- I guess I took it to heart a little as I probably spent half my time playing sports and half the time on the couch with a can of Pringles
But for me, video games turned into computer games, which really got me interested in computers and consequently I ended up with a Computer Science degree and a pretty good job. There's hard work involved there, but sometimes motivation comes from places you wouldn't expect.And to lighten up the mood just a lil:
...and even if he's a lazy man – and the Dude was most certainly that. Quite possibly the laziest in Los Angeles County, which would place him high in the runnin' for laziest worldwide
Anyways, interesting stuff none the less. Took me entirely longer than I thought to read through it
If only we could reach the point where every human cared AS MUCH about their neighbor as themselves. We could then truly have a bit of heaven here on earth. A few pages back, I was accused of being "utopian"... well, I guess I am. I seem to be one of the few who is as concerned for people I don't even know as I am for myself. I was taught the Golden Rule as a young child, and it has become my life's mantra as I have aged. I find it is probably the best gage for my every activity in life, and I do indeed try to treat others as I would want to be treated myself.
PS: The context of this post obviously is what I have come to understand about America and its government. I do not want it to seem that this is how I think the the whole world works since I have no experience outside of the US.
I know I've had my say here but I do want to make 'a final' point, which I have touched on previously... and have been ridiculed while doing so. 
Ever wondered how the media and the banks always always seem to work well together (for example...) regarding predictions of sharp rises in oil commodities?
The articles always seem to start along the lines of ... and this is an actual example: note the link!
More specifically, you have the source of the article written by CNN, the market speculator is from Goldman Sachs... does that not ring alarm bells to you? These entities have already been discussed. You would know they are the same 'entities' already identified in this thread for conjuring up a lot of lucrative business for themselves. Wake up people!

Ever wondered how the media and the banks always always seem to work well together (for example...) regarding predictions of sharp rises in oil commodities?
The articles always seem to start along the lines of ... and this is an actual example: note the link!
A new Goldman Sachs prediction that oil prices could rise to $150 to $200 within two years seemed to motivate much of Tuesday's buying, although a falling dollar and increasing concerns about declining crude production in Mexico and Russia contributed, analysts say.
http://www.businessandmedia.org/prin...512143609.aspx
http://www.businessandmedia.org/prin...512143609.aspx

I am reading every post in this thread... carefully. I am deeply interested in what the folks in this particular forum have to say about the current situation and what they see coming for oil, transportation, and the economy as a whole. We are discussing, and maybe even affecting to a tiny degre, what is coming at us in the next 4, 12, or even 20 years.
On a side note, after posting the topic of starvation and the powers behind it, I kind of expected a thrashing of sorts. Maybe even a few BS-flags and some stout verbage about how wealthy people give so much to the world, pay the most taxes, etc. I was busy outdoors all weekend and intentionally did not look at this thread until this morning... not a SINGLE reply. I find this very interesting. Wonder why nobody has an opinion on that subject?
I agree that the corporations have a lot of power and that "big business" essentially runs the country and even the world. That is partly the nature of the global market we find ourselves in.
BUT, is that all bad? What other group of people would do a better job? How would things be different?
Before we condemn the way things are, we need to have a clear understanding of how they could be better and then you enlighten people and figure out how to get there. I certainly don't think things are great here, but they could be a lot worse. China is a perfect example of this.
BUT, is that all bad? What other group of people would do a better job? How would things be different?
Before we condemn the way things are, we need to have a clear understanding of how they could be better and then you enlighten people and figure out how to get there. I certainly don't think things are great here, but they could be a lot worse. China is a perfect example of this.
The incredibly powerful and wealthy pharmaceutical industry withdraws the necessary drugs because they are not profitable enough. This has been happening frequently. As a result, snake anti-venom, children immunization shots, and other critical medications have been greatly reduced or stopped production altogether, often to make room to produce more pills to lower cholesterol levels. That's because cholesterol reducing pills make a nice profit. Malaria drugs do not.
And hence, this is what happens when corporations rule the world. Also goes along with Proud's posts on population control. Many illnesses that take lives of vast number of people in the developing world could rather easily be a thing of the past if the pharmaceutical industry wanted it that way.
Meant every word. 
I am reading every post in this thread... carefully. I am deeply interested in what the folks in this particular forum have to say about the current situation and what they see coming for oil, transportation, and the economy as a whole. We are discussing, and maybe even affecting to a tiny degre, what is coming at us in the next 4, 12, or even 20 years.
On a side note, after posting the topic of starvation and the powers behind it, I kind of expected a thrashing of sorts. Maybe even a few BS-flags and some stout verbage about how wealthy people give so much to the world, pay the most taxes, etc. I was busy outdoors all weekend and intentionally did not look at this thread until this morning... not a SINGLE reply. I find this very interesting. Wonder why nobody has an opinion on that subject?

I am reading every post in this thread... carefully. I am deeply interested in what the folks in this particular forum have to say about the current situation and what they see coming for oil, transportation, and the economy as a whole. We are discussing, and maybe even affecting to a tiny degre, what is coming at us in the next 4, 12, or even 20 years.
On a side note, after posting the topic of starvation and the powers behind it, I kind of expected a thrashing of sorts. Maybe even a few BS-flags and some stout verbage about how wealthy people give so much to the world, pay the most taxes, etc. I was busy outdoors all weekend and intentionally did not look at this thread until this morning... not a SINGLE reply. I find this very interesting. Wonder why nobody has an opinion on that subject?


I remember catching an elevator to the office one day and looking up at the monitor to look at the day's weather's forecast. On it, I also read some interesting facts... "On this day 1290, the Jews were expelled from England" was the message (much to my amazement a the time). That made me want to understand why they were the most persecuted group in the history of mankind. I initially believed the reasons were only religiously motivated.
Well, there's various reasons why WWII started. The one I'm inclined to believe was that during the time of the great depression in Germany, the Jews were almost immune from all the gloom as they owned the banks and basically controlled the wealth. Nationalism grew, so too anger and the Germans became disenchanted with the notion that the stock market was being manipulated to benefit the rich while the standards of mainstream society were in sharp decline.
Why do I take the line I have? Well it seems ridiculous to suggest that the Germans were purely racist and considered that their bloodlines threatened. Not when the Jews only comprised less than 1% of the population... which is an insignificant number in population terms.
Interestingly, the same people now control the wealth in the US. While I don't believe in wars and don't believe we will see one in the US, it is interesting to begin to contemplate which political group will try to fight the forces within.
I've read with interest on how JFK's silver certificates (EO11110) would be a way out of the problems mentioned. But it's interesting to note that no president is game enough to want to repeat JFK's moves even though the idea has potentially huge merit... as a way of taking back control from 'the establishment'.
Proud, I found this on Rothschilds. Interesting read, for me anyway, to whom this is a new subject.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread211313/pg1
And here is one more interesting theory. Somewhat out of date. This one is taken from here.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread211313/pg1
And here is one more interesting theory. Somewhat out of date. This one is taken from here.
The article provides evidence of the Rothschild-lead NWO pulling the plug on the US Dollar. They've used the US dollar as a tool until it is about to break, and they're ready to move back to Europe, as their tool of choice, though not before America sets WWIII in the Middle East. Then they will abandon America to the ensuing chaos and even perhaps war with China and/or Russia. The US Dollar’s collapse has been delayed due to the increase in crude oil prices from $9/barrel in 1998 to near $80/barrel in 2006. But if the oil trade switches to the EURO as the standard instead of the US DOLLAR, the US$ collapse will be that much worse. Of course, the worldwide depression will enable trillionaire Rothschild, Rockefeller and Co. dynasties to buy up more assets at pennies on the dollar. History repeats itself.
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Buffett's dire warnings likely represent the sentiments of the Rothschilds and others in European financier dynasties dominating the New World Order overclass; those who hope to use a worldwide depression to seize assets, depopulate the planet of "useless eaters," and create a unipolar biometric police state."
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Buffett's dire warnings likely represent the sentiments of the Rothschilds and others in European financier dynasties dominating the New World Order overclass; those who hope to use a worldwide depression to seize assets, depopulate the planet of "useless eaters," and create a unipolar biometric police state."
Proud, I found this on Rothschilds. Interesting read, for me anyway, to whom this is a new subject.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread211313/pg1
And here is one more interesting theory. Somewhat out of date. This one is taken from here.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread211313/pg1
And here is one more interesting theory. Somewhat out of date. This one is taken from here.
)You should also have found it interesting that the value of their fortune is rumored to be anywhere from 1.5-trillion to over 600 trillion. That's more than a "wide" spread. If you could even conceive how much $1-trillion really is, you'd know we are talking "buying states or countries" kind of wealth. We're talking "feed the earth" kind of wealth.
The most interesting thing for me is that they have acknowledged on record that they are not interested in wealth, but in control. They don't want to OWN everything.... then you'd have to maintain it, manage it, care for it, etc. They don't want that... they want to CONTROl everything. You can live in your home, as long as they can tell you you can, or kick you out, or make you do something to stay in it. It's utterly admitting that they want to "control"... business, finance, people, governments... everything... "the world" you might say.
Look for the one common word in these quotes taken from historic texts...
Amsel (Amschel) Bauer Mayer Rothschild, 1838:
"Let me issue and control a Nation's money and I care not who makes its laws".
Nathan Rothschild (1777-1836): "I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply."
Rockefeller said: "Competition is a sin". "Own nothing. Control everything".
Good find there muckz - one of those links (in yours) I had not yet seen.
Some of it smells of fanaticism, but many in that first thread sound like very educated individuals who are searching earnestly to seek the truth.
I've bookmarked the site for more weekend reading.

Seems we have lost many contributors to this thread now. Just a couple players still digging in their heels.

Nobody is obligated to post for sure, and I don't mind taking some time at breaks and lunch to type, but I hate to waste my time if nobody is getting anything from it. Even if nobody has something to add, they can ask questions and we'll see what we can drum up.... just shoot.
So is anyone out there reading or getting anything from any of this, or should we concentrate on giving opinionated reviews of cars we expect to see next year at NAIAS from here on out?
One thing that was revealed in the aftermath of the 911 terrorist attack was how well the US govt was able to trace the source of the attack. They were able to monitor the stock market and any movement in funds between some corporations... namely stocks relating to airline carriers and any money laundering activities. To cut a long story short, the US government was able to stop the transfer of funds and seize the assets of companies suspected of funding terrorism on a global scale, in relation to the 911 attack.
How hard is it to just seize the assets of the Rothschilds? ...
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The government was able to trace 9-11 monies in part with cooperation of The Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (S.W.I.F.T.) :
Trillions of dollars a day are funneled through their operations in Virginia.
Their corporate website:
http://www.swift.com/
The Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT) is a Belgian-based industry-owned co-operative that supplies a messaging infrastructure to the global banking community. This 'community' consists of banks, brokers and dealers, investment managers and their market infrastructures in payments, securities, treasury and trade. SWIFT provides messaging services and interface software to more than 7,863 financial institutions in 204 countries and territories. For instance, 107 U.S. banks are memebrs of SWIFT, as are 99 Swiss Banks, 101 Russian banks, 86 UK Banks, 123 Japanese Banks, 37 Chinese Banks, 123 Italian Banks, and 104 German Banks. According to its 2005 report, traffic on this network has reached 2.6bn messages, or 10 million messages a day on average. The largest sources of trafffic on the SWIFTNet FIN are the UK, the U.S., Germany, Belgium, France and Italy; though the fastest growth markets for 2005 were the Middle East and Africa. The majority of the messaging is about payments, followed by securities, treasury and trade messaging.
Though based in La Hulpe, Belgium, just outside of Brussels, the SWIFT Group has subsidiaries in Australia, Brazil, Switzerland, Germany, Spain, France, the United Kingdom, Hong Kong, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, Sweden, Singapore, South Africa, and the United States. The Chairman of SWIFT is Jaap Kamp, while the CEO is Leonard Schrank. Unfortunately the story broke one week after SWIFT's Annual General Meeting on June 14, 2006.
SWIFT's activities is overseen primarily by the National Bank of Belgium, though other central banks are said to "have a legitimate interest in, or responsibility for, the oversight of SWIFT, given SWIFT's role in their domestic systems." Therefore it has international oversight in co-operation with G-10 central banks, i.e. the Bank of Canada, Deutsche Bundesbank, European Central Bank, Banque de France, Banca d’Italia, Bank of Japan, De Nederlandsche Bank, Sveriges Riksbank, Swiss National Bank, Bank of England and the Federal Reserve System (USA), represented by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System. For the most part, however, this oversight is limited to security, operational reliability, business continuity, and resilience of the infrastructure
Though based in La Hulpe, Belgium, just outside of Brussels, the SWIFT Group has subsidiaries in Australia, Brazil, Switzerland, Germany, Spain, France, the United Kingdom, Hong Kong, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, Sweden, Singapore, South Africa, and the United States. The Chairman of SWIFT is Jaap Kamp, while the CEO is Leonard Schrank. Unfortunately the story broke one week after SWIFT's Annual General Meeting on June 14, 2006.
SWIFT's activities is overseen primarily by the National Bank of Belgium, though other central banks are said to "have a legitimate interest in, or responsibility for, the oversight of SWIFT, given SWIFT's role in their domestic systems." Therefore it has international oversight in co-operation with G-10 central banks, i.e. the Bank of Canada, Deutsche Bundesbank, European Central Bank, Banque de France, Banca d’Italia, Bank of Japan, De Nederlandsche Bank, Sveriges Riksbank, Swiss National Bank, Bank of England and the Federal Reserve System (USA), represented by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System. For the most part, however, this oversight is limited to security, operational reliability, business continuity, and resilience of the infrastructure
Their corporate website:
http://www.swift.com/
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https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...4&postcount=67
There are links and explanations about their wealth in that post.
It came in piles and it came swift, once they started "financing".
Doesn't hurt to become close with King Wilhelm IX - inheritor of one of the wealthiest kingdoms in Europe at the time either. Helps you get your business "going".
Mayer Amschel Rothschild
"Much of the early Rothschild fortune and rise to prominence was built on business dealings with Wilhelm IX, Landgrave of Hesse-Kassel (or Hesse-Cassel). Wilhelm had inherited what was purported to be among the largest fortunes in Europe and eventually came to depend substantially on Mayer for managing this fortune, particularly during and after the invasion and conquest of the area by Napoleon (Wilhelm went into exile for several years, leaving his fortune in Mayer's hands).[2]"
And for those of you paying close attention to detail, this is the same Hesse-Kassel which derives royal lineage to the current Prince Phillip - husband to the current Queen of England.
Should you decide to do 20 minutes worth of searches and reading about the Rothschilds, you will be utterly astounded at what you learn.
It's not just the Rothschilds, although they are central to how the Jews have managed to rise immediately to a position of wealth, after their persecution of WWII. In fact, the Rothschilds created the state of Israel!
Rothschild has some close allies, namely, the Warburg and Schiff families but I'm sure there are more. They, too, own banks and have their hand in the media.
Rothschild has some close allies, namely, the Warburg and Schiff families but I'm sure there are more. They, too, own banks and have their hand in the media.
On Wednesday, I ate lunch at a Taco Bell acros the street from a BP station. I commented to my buddy about gas dropping below $3.50 for the first time in a while... it was $3.47/gallon at 12:30pm on Wednesday.
On Thursday, I went to McDonalds to grab a quick sandwich and run some errands... including filling my Muskrat for the weekend. I wheeled in there and was surprised to see gas went up .05/gal... it was $3.52/gal at 12:30 on Thursday.
Last night, after soccer practice, the family and I grabbed a Whopper at burger King on the way home (it's beside the Taco Bell). While we were eating, I mentioned to my wife that gas had gone up .05 in 24hrs, and she replied in shock, "Good Lord! How much did I pay?" I told her $3.52/gal. She replied , "Well it's $3.65 now!" Sure enough, I look and it's $3.65/gal at 7:30pm on the same Thursday.
I know it will change, and I took a screen image of it at the time I linked to it, but this link shows prices ranging from 3.45/gal to 3.65/gal for regular at several stations not 1 mile apart (same interchange off the highway).
"Crude and natural gas prices had been edging up over the last several days, but prices plummeted on Thursday. Crude oil declined by $2.56, to $115.59 a barrel. Natural gas prices declined 55.8 cents, to $8.05 per million B.T.U.’s."
WTF guys!!!
20-cents in 24 hours!!! No hurricanes (yet), no crisis, no bombings, no nothing... but greed. OH YEAH... and Labor Day Weekend coming up.
Crude fell $2.56/bbl yesterday while pump prices went up .20/gallon.
"Crude and natural gas prices had been edging up over the last several days, but prices plummeted on Thursday. Crude oil declined by $2.56, to $115.59 a barrel. Natural gas prices declined 55.8 cents, to $8.05 per million B.T.U.’s."
If anyone has any doubt about what "GOUGING" or "FLEECING" is, this should pretty well clear it up for them. I am F-ing infuriated over this.
So, will some of our defenders of the "free market" please step-up and explain to me how this is "good business" again, because I'm just not seeing it myself. Something about this whole supply/demand thing just isn't seeming to work out consistently for me.
Of course, we all expect the prices to drop another 20-cents next Tuesday, right?
On Thursday, I went to McDonalds to grab a quick sandwich and run some errands... including filling my Muskrat for the weekend. I wheeled in there and was surprised to see gas went up .05/gal... it was $3.52/gal at 12:30 on Thursday.
Last night, after soccer practice, the family and I grabbed a Whopper at burger King on the way home (it's beside the Taco Bell). While we were eating, I mentioned to my wife that gas had gone up .05 in 24hrs, and she replied in shock, "Good Lord! How much did I pay?" I told her $3.52/gal. She replied , "Well it's $3.65 now!" Sure enough, I look and it's $3.65/gal at 7:30pm on the same Thursday.
I know it will change, and I took a screen image of it at the time I linked to it, but this link shows prices ranging from 3.45/gal to 3.65/gal for regular at several stations not 1 mile apart (same interchange off the highway).
"Crude and natural gas prices had been edging up over the last several days, but prices plummeted on Thursday. Crude oil declined by $2.56, to $115.59 a barrel. Natural gas prices declined 55.8 cents, to $8.05 per million B.T.U.’s."
WTF guys!!!
20-cents in 24 hours!!! No hurricanes (yet), no crisis, no bombings, no nothing... but greed. OH YEAH... and Labor Day Weekend coming up.

Crude fell $2.56/bbl yesterday while pump prices went up .20/gallon.
"Crude and natural gas prices had been edging up over the last several days, but prices plummeted on Thursday. Crude oil declined by $2.56, to $115.59 a barrel. Natural gas prices declined 55.8 cents, to $8.05 per million B.T.U.’s."
If anyone has any doubt about what "GOUGING" or "FLEECING" is, this should pretty well clear it up for them. I am F-ing infuriated over this.

So, will some of our defenders of the "free market" please step-up and explain to me how this is "good business" again, because I'm just not seeing it myself. Something about this whole supply/demand thing just isn't seeming to work out consistently for me.
Of course, we all expect the prices to drop another 20-cents next Tuesday, right?
Well, to all who throw "free market" thing around, I say again, free market does not apply to inelastic goods. Period. Done. Q.E.D.
Believing in a free market is what naive yet well-intentioned freshmen do when they enter college, and the world of knowledge is so open, untraversed by them.
When the price of oil was $100 per barrel, we paid $1.00 per litre. When the price of oil shot up to $147, the price of a litre of gasoline went to $1.36. For a $47 jump in the price of oil, the pump prices went up 35¢.
When the price of oil dropped $30, the price at the pump went down only 10¢, down to $1.26.
So, I ask, who of you still says that it's the free market that's regulating the costs of gas?
Not helping, of course, was the CIBC World Markets financial analyst who said the price of gasoline will go to $1.75 if this hurricane does any damage in the Gulf of Mexico.
Believing in a free market is what naive yet well-intentioned freshmen do when they enter college, and the world of knowledge is so open, untraversed by them.
When the price of oil was $100 per barrel, we paid $1.00 per litre. When the price of oil shot up to $147, the price of a litre of gasoline went to $1.36. For a $47 jump in the price of oil, the pump prices went up 35¢.
When the price of oil dropped $30, the price at the pump went down only 10¢, down to $1.26.
So, I ask, who of you still says that it's the free market that's regulating the costs of gas?
Not helping, of course, was the CIBC World Markets financial analyst who said the price of gasoline will go to $1.75 if this hurricane does any damage in the Gulf of Mexico.


