1) The Budget GT
Camaro Sport Coupe:
-Standard engine: normally aspirated 2.4L Ecotec. 210 hp.
-Optional engine: turbo 2.0L Ecotec. 285 hp.
-F41 performance package available.
Weight: 3350 -3400 pounds (coupe)


2) The Luxury GT
Camaro SS:
-Standard engine: turbo 2.0L Ecotec. 315 hp.
-Optional engine: Gen V 6.2L V8. 415 hp.
-Various high content options available.
Weight: 3450-3575 pounds. (coupe)


3) The Performance GT
Camaro Z/28
-Specific engine: Gen V 6.2L V8. 465 hp.
-Optional engine: None.
-Specific "Special Performance Package"
-Content and options limited.
Weight: 3395 pounds. (coupe only)









* Long way from any final specs or weights, but I'd call these possible - plus it's fun.


Discuss!

 

What do you think the torque ratings would be on those Ecotecs? I am worried about a 4-cylinder feeling gutless.

 

gen V 6.2?
was thinking more like a 5.5 at 430hp
and 490ish for the z28

 

Good luck on anything with a V8 weighing in less than 3500lbs with a backseat with all the stupid safety crap the gubberment keeps tacking on

 

My guess? 180-ish lbsft for the 2.4 and 280-ish for the turbos.

The 5.5 is for Corvette racing only. It's a destroked 6.2 not destined for production.


Yup, the Z/28's theoretical 3395 pounds will take some 'sweating the details'.

 

Manual windows, locks, seats. 1LE style, I'd rock a car like that

 

I don't know about manual windows, but I could do without fluff like heated and cooled seats, automatic rear window shades, backup warning sensors, etc..

 

Weird thinking that checking off an option box will get you an extra 4.2L of engine.

 

Didn't I make a comment about a Camaro that jumped from turbo4 to v8?

To me, I cannot see the Turbo 4 replacing a N/A V6. The engine simply costs more to build and maintain while coming with a negative stigma to many consumers (and it would sound like a 4 banger as well). I see the merits of replacing a V6 with a turbo I4 - but not for Camaro.

It makes sense for the new Sonata or the Regal or even Malibu - when you engineer a V6 out of the picture so you only ever have a 4 cylinder lineup with motor mounts and transmissions in the same locations. Then you could hopefully offset the increased engine cost with reducing the overall platform costs and reduce variations along the way.

Now, to the realism of those numbers, the Genesis 2.0T 3294 / 3362 (MT/AT) and the 3.8L is 3389 / 3397 (MT/AT). Possible? Sure. I tend to think though Camaro's worst enemy is the styling department - they need to make the vehicle smaller on the outside and bigger on the inside - which means the long-hood-wide-body styling has to go.

 

No 330HP V6?

415HP isn't much for a 6.2L V8 considering a 5.7L non DI was putting out 405HP in 2002 and a 5.0L Mustang V8 is 411HP in 2011. I could see getting that number out of a 5.3 or 5.5L though.

 

4 engine options? Too complicated. Just give 2. Whatever has a good balance of power, fuel economy, and cost on the low end, and the 5.5L V8 on the high.


GM should seriously enter the Camaro in Grand Am GT racing, (or an equivalent series) with a factory backed team. Then offer the suspension equipment as GM Performance aftermarket.


GM can still go ahead and build the car, but don't bother calling it a Camaro then.

 

I think if they can squeeze another mpg or two out of a turbo 4 compared to a V6, GM may be willing to eat the extra cost for it. Well, not actually eat it, the rest of the line up would subsidize it. But your point is well taken.

If it gets a V6 it'll probably be a 3.6. I've heard the 3.0 will be leaving the US market since it's theoretical mpg advantage never materialized. It'll go to other markets where displacement limits are an issue. Too bad, since it's a smoother, freer revving motor than the 3.6 - it would have made for a fun engine in a lighter Camaro.

 

The only way a pushrod motor competes with a DOHC motor is displacement - 6.2 seems to be the magic number, especially when the DOHC competition has 5.0L.

I think the hp wars are winding down. 415 hp is plenty for a base 6.2L V8 when you consider the the fuel economy and emissions targets it'll have to hit.

 

A lot of signs point to a 5.5L V8 Corvette engine though, so I would guess that is what the Camaro would get.

 

5.5L is not planned for production. Gen V will have 5.3 and 6.2L