View Poll Results: Which engine would you rather see in a new ZL1 Camaro?
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If there was a new Camaro ZL1 what engine would you like to see it have
#1
If there was a new Camaro ZL1 what engine would you like to see it have
7.0L 427 LS7 from the new 2006 Z06
505 horsepower @ 6300 rpm and 470 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
or the Supercharged 6.0L LS2 from the recent STS concept
505 horsepower at 5600 rpm and 520 lb.-ft. of torque at 3600 rpm.
505 horsepower @ 6300 rpm and 470 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
or the Supercharged 6.0L LS2 from the recent STS concept
505 horsepower at 5600 rpm and 520 lb.-ft. of torque at 3600 rpm.
#3
Re: If there was a new Camaro ZL1 what engine would you like to see it have
GM already makes a ZL1 crate engine based on the original zl1 block, http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/120/...ate-Engine.htm
I vote we use that
I vote we use that
Last edited by shotgun; 04-25-2005 at 03:58 PM.
#5
Re: If there was a new Camaro ZL1 what engine would you like to see it have
Originally Posted by Jackal
use the LS7, "detune it" a bit, so old man vette doesn't get mad
#6
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Re: If there was a new Camaro ZL1 what engine would you like to see it have
Originally Posted by Z28Marcus
LOL. Yes, like 4 Hp due to an easily removable air-box baffle .
#9
Re: If there was a new Camaro ZL1 what engine would you like to see it have
If they build it right, i'd welcome the supercharged ls2. And by built right, i mean forged internals and with 700+ hp just a pulley swap away. Then perhaps that'll put an end to the "well, if we put a supercharger on Lsx" argument we've been hearing ever since the Cobras went supercharger . hehe.
But the Ls7 would be my engine of choice. Just something about having 427 cubes under the hood. Ford basically used a detuned Ford GT motor with the more exotic stuff replaced with conventional parts and so GM should go that route to bring costs down while giving the z06's Ls7 exclusivity. ex: Replace dry-sump oiling system with conventional sump, replace titanium rods and valves with more conventional ones, etc.... Do so that price comes down significantly, but performance doesn't suffer that much. Since the z06's Ls7 is certified (accuratly) at 505hp, such ZL1 should come in at around 470hp. That should make it very competitive with the GT-500, especially if the camaro turns out to be lighter.
In reality, i'd be very happy with either and we'll be very lucky to get either one. Wishful thinking for now, but one can dream.
But the Ls7 would be my engine of choice. Just something about having 427 cubes under the hood. Ford basically used a detuned Ford GT motor with the more exotic stuff replaced with conventional parts and so GM should go that route to bring costs down while giving the z06's Ls7 exclusivity. ex: Replace dry-sump oiling system with conventional sump, replace titanium rods and valves with more conventional ones, etc.... Do so that price comes down significantly, but performance doesn't suffer that much. Since the z06's Ls7 is certified (accuratly) at 505hp, such ZL1 should come in at around 470hp. That should make it very competitive with the GT-500, especially if the camaro turns out to be lighter.
In reality, i'd be very happy with either and we'll be very lucky to get either one. Wishful thinking for now, but one can dream.
#10
Re: If there was a new Camaro ZL1 what engine would you like to see it have
IF they just put the LS7 in it the old ZL1 (2002) would have more power.
if they make a new ZL1 it has to be better then the old one and the (2002) had like 600hp and 575tq
if they make a new ZL1 it has to be better then the old one and the (2002) had like 600hp and 575tq
#11
Re: If there was a new Camaro ZL1 what engine would you like to see it have
FI > NA
EDIT: For some reason my post was Fi > Na... don't know why Fi would be greater than sodium
EDIT: For some reason my post was Fi > Na... don't know why Fi would be greater than sodium
Last edited by HAZ-Matt; 04-26-2005 at 12:17 PM.
#12
Re: If there was a new Camaro ZL1 what engine would you like to see it have
Originally Posted by Jackal
use the LS7, "detune it" a bit, so old man vette doesn't get mad
#13
Re: If there was a new Camaro ZL1 what engine would you like to see it have
Originally Posted by shotgun
GM already makes a ZL1 crate engine based on the original zl1 block, http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/120/...ate-Engine.htm
I vote we use that
I vote we use that
The LS7 crate motor is what half the price?
I also want to know who in their right mind voted for the supercharged LS2, and what their reasoning was? That combination should be more slated for a production SS and not an ultra exotic that would be the Z28... er I mean ZL1.
#14
Re: If there was a new Camaro ZL1 what engine would you like to see it have
Originally Posted by jg95z28
I also want to know who in their right mind voted for the supercharged LS2, and what their reasoning was? That combination should be more slated for a production SS and not an ultra exotic that would be the Z28... er I mean ZL1.
It's still a great engine though. Just look at Ford's blown 4.6 and 5.4's and the potential of a well-built factory boosted v8 engines.
True, the Ls7 is more exotic, but you know what that means? more expensive parts. 700hp would be a breeze (and cheap) for a blown and forged 6.0L Ls2. It wouldn't come as cheap on a modified Ls7 though.
Both are great engines. I'd rather have the Ls7 just because 500hp is more than enough for me and i'd keep it stock, but for those wanting more without breaking the bank, the S/c'd Ls2 would provide some good thrills.
Last edited by Gold_Rush; 04-25-2005 at 07:14 PM.
#15
Re: If there was a new Camaro ZL1 what engine would you like to see it have
the old zl1 had more power than 505hp so the new one should. i say do the iron 572 (like Moss's aluminum 572).
The only way i think that that would happen though would be if GM let people buy camaro and get the engine dealer installed.
i figure if you do it, go alllll the way. remember that their were 69 original zl1's. why would you want to dishonor that name with a "mere" 500 hp?
::i know i'm being unlrealistic, but i enjoy that::
The only way i think that that would happen though would be if GM let people buy camaro and get the engine dealer installed.
i figure if you do it, go alllll the way. remember that their were 69 original zl1's. why would you want to dishonor that name with a "mere" 500 hp?
::i know i'm being unlrealistic, but i enjoy that::
Last edited by number77; 04-25-2005 at 09:09 PM.