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Old May 18, 2004 | 01:24 AM
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if DC can afford 3 engins in the 300...

why can't GM afford to offer 3 engines in the next Camaro?
Old May 18, 2004 | 01:26 AM
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Re: if DC can afford 3 engins in the 300...

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why can't GM afford to offer 3 engines in the next Camaro?
They will.
Old May 18, 2004 | 02:46 AM
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Most likely.

Lets go for 4.

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Old May 18, 2004 | 07:45 AM
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Since it will be on the Zeta platform it should have a lot of engines avalible to it.
Old May 18, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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weird. this is the first i'm hearing of this. the story always seemed to be that more than two engines didn't make business sense. at least that's what gui was saying. so what's the other option besides the HV 3.9L and the LS2?
Old May 18, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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i'm guessing ls7, ls2 and a v6
remember that by that time the ls7 won't be all that new
since it will be in the z06 for a few years and an ls7 model probably wouldn't come out on time with the rest of the models.
but on the base model v8, imagine it
with very limited intake, that would be great. imagine buying one of those bad boys and just replacing the induction and picking up 50 hp idea, please do this GM
Old May 18, 2004 | 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by number77
i'm guessing ls7, ls2 and a v6
remember that by that time the ls7 won't be all that new
since it will be in the z06 for a few years and an ls7 model probably wouldn't come out on time with the rest of the models.
but on the base model v8, imagine it
with very limited intake, that would be great. imagine buying one of those bad boys and just replacing the induction and picking up 50 hp idea, please do this GM
more than likely, we'll see an ls2 in the top model, lq9 (isn't this the code for the new 5.3?) base v8, and a base 3.9 hv v6

edit: and it makes more business sense because some people just want to say they have a v8 (it proved it's worth in the 3rd gen) but really don't want/need 400 tire-ripping hp, just something that provides good torque and gets decent fuel economy
Old May 18, 2004 | 10:57 PM
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A special edition Z28 or ZL1 with the LS7 will make it all right.

Ultimate Setup:

Base: V6 3.9
RS: S/C V6 3.9
SS327
SS6.0
Z28: LS7 427

or

Base: V6 3.9
RS: 327
SS: LS2
Z28: LS2 with some good all around upgrades
ZL1: LS7 427

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Old May 18, 2004 | 11:03 PM
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A special edition Z28 or ZL1 with the LS7 will make it all right.
no, it should not happen that way
remember how the original zl1 engine was only put in 69 camaros and 2 corvettes, not thousands. i believe if the zl1 ever came back (probably not likely in a Camaro form) it should be very exclusive. i know everyone wants one, but i want it to stay very rare to keep its name. it was a supercar, the best of its era in exoticness could be compared to few others. for somereason i like the unachievable title(modernly).

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Old May 18, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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They also put them in 69 Camaros. Yup, let's keep a great engine all exclusive and untouchable while the other guys are throwing in 6.1 HEMI's and S/C's on M*stangs.

If they can get the job done without the LS7 that's great, but adding in a very limited amount for each production year will only be good for the brand and excitement. The Camaro has always shared engines with the Corvette sooner or later. The Camaro was meant to outrun the other guys, even if the 427 is in the Camaro it will still be slower than the Corvette either by weight or because it would most likely be changed so it doesn't make as much power.

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Old May 19, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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Re: if DC can afford 3 engins in the 300...

Originally posted by morb|d
why can't GM afford to offer 3 engines in the next Camaro?
You are talking about a company that puts daytime running lights on all it's cars to save a few cents per car because they are too cheap to make separate wiring harnesses for Canada (which requires them) and the US.
Old May 19, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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Re: Re: if DC can afford 3 engins in the 300...

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You are talking about a company that puts daytime running lights on all it's cars to save a few cents per car because they are too cheap to make separate wiring harnesses for Canada (which requires them) and the US.

NEVER heard that one before!

But now that you mention it... a coworker had a 98 Expedition that had DRL's and I asked him how so. He said he bought it from a guy who moved down here to NC from Toronto, and it had DRLs since new. Hmmm...

Couldn't you just NOT use that particular light socket?
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I say more the engines the merrier - as long as they are all economically feasible. 3 for sure, 4 if done correctly like a limited ed type car.

Regardless of displacement or HP, I think something better happen pretty soon with gas prices, or we will all see sales of V8s and performance cars suffer.

It'll be like the 70's all over again, but with elec's or hybrids instead of just 4-sluggers.
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Originally posted by ProudPony
Couldn't you just NOT use that particular light socket?
I don't see why that wouldn't work in most cars like the silverado. The LS1 Camaros had the parking lights a DRL, but that looks much better IMO than white headlight style DRLs
Old May 19, 2004 | 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by ProudPony
Regardless of displacement or HP, I think something better happen pretty soon with gas prices, or we will all see sales of V8s and performance cars suffer.

It'll be like the 70's all over again, but with elec's or hybrids instead of just 4-sluggers.
Except this time SUVs and trucks are the pigs The 405HP Z06 gets better milage than just about all V6 cute-utes.

DoD and 6 speed automatic should help push the next V8 Camaro into the 33-35mpg hwy range



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