I think if you look at the big picture, GM's lineup in 2010/2011 will be more competitive from top-to-bottom than at any other point in recent history. As long as I've been alive, GM has always had a few "stinkers" for sale, and it looks like they are finally getting out of that business.

If you're a "GM Fan", you won't have to make excuses about an older model, or if you squint the dashboard isn't that bad, etc etc etc. It will be a lot easier to recommend to people that they head down the GM dealership and end up with a 'winner'.

 

 

He is calling you bias because even though GM sold a ****load of those cars you have to say that obviously they were bad and no one wanted them. Which is just completely ignoring the facts he is stating.

 

You've had plenty of cars the last few years that are "exciting" but obviously it doesn't mean much. And the point that I was making, is that even when these cars were out, the imports continued to make advances.

 

If you look at the dimensions HHR and Escape are about the same size and the Equinox and Ford Edge are about the same. The only reason (I believe) that the HHR isn't compared to the Escape is because it doesn't have AWD and sits lower.

HHR = 176.2"
Escape = 174.7"

Equinox = 188.8"
Edge = 185.7"

I like the Edge better than the current Equinox, but not the 2010 Equinox.

 

My passion for GM ended in 02, I wonder how many GM fans bought 05+ mustangs like myself.....???

 

I'm glad you are here, but if you have no passion for GM why join a GM centric site?

 

Simple answer...Yes. I'm a dis-enfranchised GM fanboy.

 

I couldn't bring myself to do that.

 

I find a lot of excitement in the lineup. I like the G8, Malubu, new trucks, and so forth. Iam not hung up on a ton of 2 doors. As long as it is a well executed vehicle I am happy. Cramming passengers into a 2 door sucks anyway.

 

I loved Oldsmobile. The rocket engine, the styling and innovation of the brand up to maybe the mid 80's. Then I don't know what happened (saturn?), they lost it. I started to move toward Pontiac. The Grand Prix and Grand Am's were nice. Now, I still only by domestics but, I'm all over the board. We'll see when the dust settles. If GM has less to focus on, maybe the styling and innovation will bring back the loyalty.

 

Honestly I'm more passionate about GM products today that I have ever been in the past.

From 13-21 I primarily only cared about Camaros.
From 21-30 I only cared about 1967-69 Camaros.
From 30-37 I only cared about 1st & 4th Gen Camaros.
It wasn't until I bought a 2002 Tahoe seven years ago that I actually began thinking of other Chevy products, and perhaps in the past 5 years began to appreciate all GM products. Heck 10 years ago I would've never considered a Chevy Cruze, and now I'm looking forward to them coming out.

I guess with age, our minds broaden and we begin accepting things we would never have considered at an early age. I suppose a similar correlation could be make with alcohol. At 21 I would have never been into fine wines like I am at 43.

 

Other than a truck (which I have to have), there is nothing left for me at GM.

I like Camaro, but it just isn't what I'm looking for. Everything else has either been killed or is about to be.

 

Saw a new Camaro in the showroom for the first time recently....great interior....ho-hum for the exterior; I just don't dig the taillights. Now that they've killed Pontiac, GM products are nowhere near the top of my shopping list as far as performance cars are concerned.

 

I'm 26 and there's not been a time in GM history where they've had a larger number of performance cars that are actually well thought out. So in that regard I'm more passionate about GM products now. Too bad we don't really know what the future holds.