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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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I just got my jan 2006 issue of hemmings muscle machine magazine. On page 53 it has an article title "the camaro is coming." in this article the author states that he received a picture of a clay model of what appeared to be the 5th gen camaro. he also said that they cant show the picture becuase a GM public relations guy contacted them. he says:

...remains faithful to the original camaro ponycar concept. A squarish roof, muscular haunches, a Coke-bottle kick ahead of the rear wheels formed by the shape of the rear-quarter window and rocker-panel shaping and cowl hood. The engine is in front, the drive wheels are in back. There are vintage cues all over it. but at the same time, the overall shape is modern-simultaneously curvaceous and angular. The grille most resembles a '69.- blacked out, egg crate shaped, dual headlamps inset, a slight V to the grille itself. The rear quarters flare out gently over the swollen rear rubber and are graced by a single, slender vertical faux-vent.
The front view is the hot one. The rear has a gigantic bumper that is still huge even with the visual thinning of a black panel between the tail lamps. The four separate tail lamps are more corvette than early camaro, though apparently little rectangular lights surrounded in chrome were considered earlier on. The wheels seem more at home on an escalade than a muscle car, but the rest of it is right on the money. It nods to the past without wallowing in it. It is everything I wish the mustang was, visually, and is not ...
features a multilink front suspension, a fully independant rear, beefy subframe rails that go far back in the floorpan and, possibly for the camaro only, an exhaust that crosses over itself.
after that a GM security guy calls him early in the morning after he couldnt get anyone to confirm it was indeed a camaro. the conversation goes like this:

"good morning this is so and so from GM security. I got a report that you have some GM-owned photos of the 2006 camaro."
he goes
"Aha so it IS the 2006 camaro"
and a long silence followed.


well what do you guys think? if its true looks like we'll be seeing retro. Ive tried to dig up the picture but I guess Im not good at looking.
Old Dec 2, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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Its either this

or this

that he has. I doubt he has pics of a clay modeled Camaro.
Edit: and wouldn't it be impossible for it to be a 2006?

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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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he said it was in GM's typical design studio turntable and had "confidential" on the front of it. both of those pictures dont look much like is explained. by 2006 I believe he meant 2006 concept.

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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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If it weren't for the tacked on chrome bar, I would think that first one is more Firebird than Camaro.
Old Dec 2, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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Well I'm suprised that such a relatively unknown magazine got it.
Old Dec 2, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by number77
That was already shown to be nothing relating to the Camaro. It was found, a few days after those pictures were released that it was a part of someones personal portfolio of their own designs, to be something like a concept lincoln.
Old Dec 3, 2005 | 01:01 AM
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That looks like something that would go on a kids birthday cake...
Old Dec 3, 2005 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MarineReconZ28
That looks like something that would go on a kids birthday cake...
Hell, thats looks LIKE a kids birthday cake.
Old Dec 3, 2005 | 08:09 AM
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i got a question...........if he has a picture of a clay model of the car, how the HECK does he know about the suspension, exhaust, and subframe rails????????????
Old Dec 3, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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Well, if what the magazine author has described is true, I have to say I am quite pleased to here it.
Old Dec 3, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo96z28
i got a question...........if he has a picture of a clay model of the car, how the HECK does he know about the suspension, exhaust, and subframe rails????????????
Maybe he's claiming he has a spec sheet too? I don't know if i am buying this... I think they are just trying to report some "big" news and citing a clay model picture because the clay model picture can't deny the claims... He doesn't even need a source in this case, but he has a good story. Maybe not...
Old Dec 3, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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Well, his information does at least coincide with the info will already are aware of from this board. IRS, a strut setup of some kind up front(multilink is a great thing to hear, I hope is true).

The second picture in number77's post is a concept for a Lincoln. The first picture looks like some 4th grader made a Firebird out of clay, and gave it exposed headlights.
Old Dec 3, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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...remains faithful to the original camaro ponycar concept. A squarish roof, muscular haunches, a Coke-bottle kick ahead of the rear wheels formed by the shape of the rear-quarter window and rocker-panel shaping and cowl hood. The engine is in front, the drive wheels are in back. There are vintage cues all over it. but at the same time, the overall shape is modern-simultaneously curvaceous and angular. The grille most resembles a '69.- blacked out, egg crate shaped, dual headlamps inset, a slight V to the grille itself. The rear quarters flare out gently over the swollen rear rubber and are graced by a single, slender vertical faux-vent.
The front view is the hot one. The rear has a gigantic bumper that is still huge even with the visual thinning of a black panel between the tail lamps. The four separate tail lamps are more corvette than early camaro, though apparently little rectangular lights surrounded in chrome were considered earlier on. The wheels seem more at home on an escalade than a muscle car, but the rest of it is right on the money. It nods to the past without wallowing in it. It is everything I wish the mustang was, visually, and is not ...
features a multilink front suspension, a fully independant rear, beefy subframe rails that go far back in the floorpan and, possibly for the camaro only, an exhaust that crosses over itself.
Sounds pretty real to me.............
Old Dec 3, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
Sounds pretty real to me.............
Then show us the pictures.
Originally Posted by RussStang
Well, his information does at least coincide with the info will already are aware of from this board. IRS, a strut setup of some kind up front(multilink is a great thing to hear, I hope is true).

The second picture in number77's post is a concept for a Lincoln. The first picture looks like some 4th grader made a Firebird out of clay, and gave it exposed headlights.
I didn't say those were the pics of the 5th gen. I was saying that if he had pics of a clay car, it might be those, seeing as how i doubt he has pics of the real one.
Old Dec 3, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
Sounds pretty real to me.............
Ditto.

Originally Posted by number77
Then show us the pictures..
If GM went into a coronary over last year's Z06 pictures (even though it looked like nothing more than a Corvette with a few extra scoops) what do you think is going to happen if anyone post embargoed pictures of an entitrely new "high intrest" car like the Camaro.

May as well tell someone to jump off a bridge.



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